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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 43906

    Re: Congratulations to Windies

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Other thread closed

    What a win. Joseph sensational with 7 wickets
    It was mistakenly closed ie double clicked probably on an ipad. All fixed now.
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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21424

      Re: Congratulations to Windies

      Can we merge please?
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 43906

        Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

        How many of our batsman made centuries this summer?
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        • angelopetraglia
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6685

          Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

          Wow. How good was that. Multi commentary vision of Hazlewood's off stump being smashed out of the ground https://x.com/cricketcomau/status/17...096814406?s=20

          27 years since their last win on Australian soil. Brought back some great memories of my youth watching a dominant West Indies. Memories of Craig McDermott with Hazlewood trying to hold them off.

          It has to be good for cricket. Well played West Indies!!!!

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          • Sedat
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2007
            • 11049

            Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

            Australia have been playing at half rat power all summer. Against incredibly poor travellers (especially Pakistan) and injury-depleted opposition in both series, the 4-1 scoreline looks fine enough on paper but it was a poor summer masked by heroics from Cummins/Hazlewood, and isolated performances with the bat from Marsh and Head. Could have easily been a 2-3 scoreline if Pakistan were able to hold onto basic catches in the cordon at crucial moments.

            Losing at fortress Gabba to one of the worst travelling teams to ever visit Australia is a woeful performance. The Windies bowlers were terrific but their batting line-up is honestly as bad as it gets - some of their techniques wouldn't cut it at Shield level. Australia's batting has been very poor all summer - huge question marks on Marnus and Green at 3/4. Head is all duck or no dinner. Marsh/Carey fail as much as they succeed.
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            • Bulldog4life
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 9607

              Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Great win by a struggling test side. Fantastic knock by Smith but he couldn't get us home.
              I was surprised he didn't try to hog the strike more.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 43906

                Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

                Originally posted by Sedat
                Australia have been playing at half rat power all summer. Against incredibly poor travellers (especially Pakistan) and injury-depleted opposition in both series, the 4-1 scoreline looks fine enough on paper but it was a poor summer masked by heroics from Cummins/Hazlewood, and isolated performances with the bat from Marsh and Head. Could have easily been a 2-3 scoreline if Pakistan were able to hold onto basic catches in the cordon at crucial moments.

                Losing at fortress Gabba to one of the worst travelling teams to ever visit Australia is a woeful performance. The Windies bowlers were terrific but their batting line-up is honestly as bad as it gets - some of their techniques wouldn't cut it at Shield level. Australia's batting has been very poor all summer - huge question marks on Marnus and Green at 3/4. Head is all duck or no dinner. Marsh/Carey fail as much as they succeed.
                5 tests against teams that are low on the rankings and many of our batsman couldn't get centuries. Sure there were a couple of shortened games but a few batsman didn't perform.
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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18731

                  Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  Australia have been playing at half rat power all summer. Against incredibly poor travellers (especially Pakistan) and injury-depleted opposition in both series, the 4-1 scoreline looks fine enough on paper but it was a poor summer masked by heroics from Cummins/Hazlewood, and isolated performances with the bat from Marsh and Head. Could have easily been a 2-3 scoreline if Pakistan were able to hold onto basic catches in the cordon at crucial moments.

                  Losing at fortress Gabba to one of the worst travelling teams to ever visit Australia is a woeful performance. The Windies bowlers were terrific but their batting line-up is honestly as bad as it gets - some of their techniques wouldn't cut it at Shield level. Australia's batting has been very poor all summer - huge question marks on Marnus and Green at 3/4. Head is all duck or no dinner. Marsh/Carey fail as much as they succeed.
                  The excitement around the windies winning has probably masked just how diabolical that loss was.

                  Where does it rank in terms of all time defeats? Must be up there...
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 65603

                    Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

                    Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                    Wow. How good was that. Multi commentary vision of Hazlewood's off stump being smashed out of the ground https://x.com/cricketcomau/status/17...096814406?s=20

                    27 years since their last win on Australian soil. Brought back some great memories of my youth watching a dominant West Indies. Memories of Craig McDermott with Hazlewood trying to hold them off.

                    It has to be good for cricket. Well played West Indies!!!!
                    I loved the way Joseph sprinted around after taking that last wicket. Prior to the break he bowled 10 straight overs and all with a bung foot.
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                    • whythelongface
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 4263

                      Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      Australia have been playing at half rat power all summer. Against incredibly poor travellers (especially Pakistan) and injury-depleted opposition in both series, the 4-1 scoreline looks fine enough on paper but it was a poor summer masked by heroics from Cummins/Hazlewood, and isolated performances with the bat from Marsh and Head. Could have easily been a 2-3 scoreline if Pakistan were able to hold onto basic catches in the cordon at crucial moments.

                      Losing at fortress Gabba to one of the worst travelling teams to ever visit Australia is a woeful performance. The Windies bowlers were terrific but their batting line-up is honestly as bad as it gets - some of their techniques wouldn't cut it at Shield level. Australia's batting has been very poor all summer - huge question marks on Marnus and Green at 3/4. Head is all duck or no dinner. Marsh/Carey fail as much as they succeed.
                      Think you are being harsh on the Windies battles here. Either that or our bowlers were tripe and couldn?t bowl them out for sub 150 ( except 2nd dig 1st test) which if they aren?t up to shield standard they should have bowled them out cheaply.

                      I actually thought the batters showed something this tour (which is more than could be said on other tours with the likes of Blackwood, Chase, Mayers, Hope etc). McKenzie, Athanaze, Hodge, Greaves, Da Silva and Sinclair all showed promise and with some decent coaching could develop into decent players. McKenzie and Sinclair are 23/24 and look really good (Sinclair should bat up the order). Athanaze needs to learn to leave the ball outside off but has a lovely drive. Hodge was defiant and held up their batting whilst Greaves is a handy all rounder.

                      No doubt they have flaws but at least their is promise which is a lot more than can be said of other West Indian touring squads.

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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 18731

                        Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        I loved the way Joseph sprinted around after taking that last wicket. Prior to the break he bowled 10 straight overs and all with a bung foot.
                        Do you think his performance was enhanced by drugs BAD?
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 65603

                          Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

                          Originally posted by Grantysghost
                          Do you think his performance was enhanced by drugs BAD?
                          No. Why do you say that
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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18731

                            Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            No. Why do you say that
                            Because I enjoy flogging a dead horse?

                            Also without pharmaceutical intervention he can not perform to that level.

                            I'm not sure I would want that performance removed from the historical archives so I've probably argued myself around. This is what goes on in my head. Not that's there's anything wrong with that right?

                            He's my new fav cricketer.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • Sedat
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 11049

                              Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

                              Originally posted by whythelongface
                              Think you are being harsh on the Windies battles here. Either that or our bowlers were tripe and couldn?t bowl them out for sub 150 ( except 2nd dig 1st test) which if they aren?t up to shield standard they should have bowled them out cheaply.
                              The latter for mine. Australia bowled poorly for the most part in the Windies series (except for the 2nd innings in Adelaide). They lacked venom and control.

                              Maybe I'll be proven wrong about the current Windies top 6 but I can see a big churn over the next couple of years. They have certainly found a live one in S Joseph.

                              I will say apart from the poor Da Silva drop on Khawaja early in Adelaide, they fielded very well, much better than Pakistan.
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                              • lemmon
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 6432

                                Re: Australia v West Indies Summer 2024 - Test, ODI and T20

                                It was a great Test and Shamar looks like he could be a star, that was one of the best bowling performances by an overseas player in Australia that I can remember. I don't even think he knew he had those speeds in him, absolute 'big game' player.

                                Agree that it exposed a weak underbelly to our batting that Khawaja has papered over for the past 12 months. It's a hard spot for selectors - it's a team that's winning, there's a lot of guys with very good career averages but no one managed to get it done. I imagine we'll be unchanged for the first Test in New Zealand because I'm not sure who you tip out? Maybe Carey but that doesn't feel like it addresses the issue.

                                Smith played well, but I thought he was way too passive with the tail. He allowed Starc, Cummins and Lyon to face the bulk of the strike in a way that Ben Stokes wouldn't. I get the idea of trusting the tail and taking runs when they're on, but if you're the last recognised batsman and there's a guy bowling 148km/h and on a roll, you simply don't allow the number 9 batsman to be on strike in the last over before the break. I thought it was very poor game sense from an experienced player.

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