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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 43996

    #16
    Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

    Originally posted by chef
    Could Australia and Indonesia do a joint bid, as this would seriously improve our chances wouldn't it?
    Originally posted by The Coon Dog
    You would think the country were more akin to anyone in terms of a joint bid is New Zealand. Alas we & NZ are in different confederations now.
    Given that NZ are unlikely to have planned to have been apart of the bid finding the money would be an issue for them plus isn't there a requirement that the host sides get a free pass into the cup?
    Could that be an issue?
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    • The Coon Dog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7575

      #17
      Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      isn't there a requirement that the host sides get a free pass into the cup?
      Could that be an issue?
      Wasn't when Japan & South Korea hosted it. Without knowing the facts I'd be pretty sure 1 less Asian Confederation qualifying place was available to accommodate both host nations..
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      • The Coon Dog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7575

        #18
        Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

        Looks like the ugly side of politics has reared its head again. The whole bidding process is as tainted as that of the Olympics.

        Australia's 2018 World Cup bid doomed, FIFA president Sepp Blatter suggests

        Australia's bid to host the 2018 World Cup finals has been handed a hammer blow by FIFA president Sepp Blatter, who has indicated that European bids alone should be considered.

        Blatter told a media conference in Madrid that a plan to take the 2018 World Cup finals to Europe was being considered, despite Australia’s bid for the 2018 tournament.

        "From what I've discussed with the president of UEFA, Michel Platini, in the last few days in Moscow is that only a European candidate will be evaluated for the 2018 World Cup," Blatter said.

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        • Missing Dog
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8501

          #19
          Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

          Nothing has been confirmed and I know the FFA were planning on sitting down with FIFA to have these comments explained. These bids require a lot of time and effort from a lot of people as well as something along the lines of $40 million committed just for the bid. If FIFA aren't taking the bid seriously and just wasting our time than shame on them, they probably want to be seen to be being impartial and allowing everyone an equal opportunity in bidding but in reality they are simply wasting our time and more importantly tax payers money.

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          • Sedat
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2007
            • 11067

            #20
            Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

            My understanding is that we are in it up to our eyeballs for 2022 and that we have lobbied the various confederations accordingly.
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            • The Coon Dog
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7575

              #21
              Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together


              Australia drops out of race to host 2018 World Cup


              England's chances of hosting the 2018 World Cup have been handed a boost after Australia dropped out of the race to focus on the 2022 tournament.

              The United States is now the only non-European bidder still involved.

              Russia and joint bids from Holland and Belgium, and Spain and Portugal are the other possible locations for the event.

              "It became apparent that there was a growing movement to stage the 2018 World Cup in Europe," said Fifa secretary general Jerome Valcke.

              "The FFA [Football Federation Australia] has displayed an exemplary level of solidarity with Europe and the European bidding nations.

              "Their announcement, therefore, to henceforth focus solely on bidding for the 2022 Fifa World Cup is a welcome gesture that is much appreciated by Fifa's leadership and executive committee. We wish to thank the FFA and the Australian Government."

              FFA chairman Frank Lowy confirmed the decision to concentrate on 2022, again strongly hinting that the tournament will head to Europe in 2018.

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              • chef
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 14508

                #22
                Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                Always going to happen after Asia said they were going to support our bid.
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                • FrediKanoute
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 3805

                  #23
                  Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                  Whlist it would be nice for Australia to host the World Cup and I'd definitely be trying to get tickets, part of me has some reservations about it and its mainly to do with the fun police at the stadiums. World Cup's are a carnival atmosphere and whilst the vuvuzuela's are annoying they add to the carnival atmosphere. So too do Mexican Waves, flags, banners, beach balls, horns, drums etc........most of this has been banned at many stadium's around Australia. Add to that Australia's almost puritanical approach to drinking (ie light beer at stadiums) and it just seems to me that the fun police will ruin the party.......personally I'm looking forward to Brasil 2014......

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                  • The Coon Dog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7575

                    #24
                    Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                    FIFA PROBE CLAIMS OVER AUSSIE BID

                    FIFA have confirmed they are investigating allegations that Australian World Cup bid officials handed out jewellery and paid travel costs for a Trinidad team in order to win votes.

                    The allegations in the Sydney Morning Telegraph quotes documents from Football Federation Australia that also details payments of up to £6.4million to consultants if the bid is successful.

                    A FIFA statement today said: "FIFA can confirm that it is looking into this matter. For the time being, FIFA cannot disclose any other details or make any further comment."

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 17861

                      #25
                      Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                      Why is this being investigated? Every country bidding for the World Cup does similar shady deals, wasting tax payer money.
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                      • Rocco Jones
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 6922

                        #26
                        Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        Why is this being investigated? Every country bidding for the World Cup does similar shady deals, wasting tax payer money.
                        This.

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                        • The Underdog
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6767

                          #27
                          Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          Why is this being investigated? Every country bidding for the World Cup does similar shady deals, wasting tax payer money.
                          I thought that was how you got World Cups.

                          Geez imagine if Olympic delegates copped this sort of scrutiny. Bribery is an entrenched part of all of this.

                          On a side note I was listening to a Podcast the other day where a US journo commenting on the World Cup essentially thought it was a certainty that 2022 would go there.
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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7471

                            #28
                            Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            Why is this being investigated? Every country bidding for the World Cup does similar shady deals, wasting tax payer money.
                            Because a newspaper was stupid enough to publish it thinking that it was something new so FIFA have to be seen to be doing something.

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                            • Flamethrower
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1345

                              #29
                              Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                              According to articles on other websites FIFA themselves are investigating Australia's bidding process for irregularites, while Yahoo is reporting that the US bidding team considers what has happened to be a mortal blow to Australia's chances of hosting in 2022.

                              Personally I have always thought that England would host in 2018 and the USA in 2022, and nothing that has happened in the last 12 months has made me believe otherwise.
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                              • The Coon Dog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7575

                                #30
                                Re: 2018 & 2022 World Cups to be decided together

                                AUSTRALIA 2022 BID TEAM IN CLEAR

                                Australian football chiefs say they have been cleared by their country's government of attempting to mislead them over their spending of public money on the bid for the 2022 World Cup.

                                A document obtained by the Age newspaper detailed a number of allegations about bonuses to consultants, gifts of pearl necklaces and cufflinks to FIFA executive committee members, and paying the costs of a Trinidad and Tobago youth team to fly to a tournament.

                                FIFA are investigating the allegations but Football Federation Australia (FFA) say the document was an "informal planning document" and government officials have examined accounts and cleared them of any attempt to mislead them

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