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  • Eastdog
    WOOF Communtiy Organiser
    • Feb 2012
    • 18374

    #2041
    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/a...s/cwy0n9jl38lo



    Man Utd, Newcastle... or neither? Sesko's choices



    With the start of the season fast approaching, the Benjamin Sesko transfer saga needs to reach a conclusion one way or the other fairly soon - and it remains unclear which way it will end.

    Manchester United and Newcastle United have both made big-money bids for the Leipzig striker - and are waiting for an answer.

    German newspaper Bild, external claims Sesko has told both clubs they are his first choice - but BBC Sport has been told he is keen on a move to the Red Devils.

    But there are pros and cons for each team - namely whether either of the Premier League sides are actually in a position to sign him.

    And where would he be more likely to get game time?

    One thing seems sure - big, strong, quick and a clinical finisher - the Slovenian could be a difference-maker wherever he ends up.

    BBC Sport has a look at his options.



    Should he go to Manchester United?


    Have they actually made a bid? Can they?

    Manchester United made their first formal offer for Sesko on Tuesday.

    BBC Sport chief football news reporter Simon Stone reports it is an initial fee of £65.2m, rising to £73.8m.

    They had been thought to want to be sure Sesko wanted to join them before making their move.

    Old Trafford sources say they do not have to sell players before making more signings - but do accept finance will have to be generated by several players unwanted by Ruben Amorim.



    Why would Sesko want to join them?

    Sesko would be a likely starter at one of the world's biggest clubs if he joined Manchester United.

    Rasmus Hojlund, also aged 22, has only scored 14 Premier League goals in two seasons since his £64m move from Atalanta.

    By contrast Sesko has scored 27 Bundesliga goals in that time, having joined Leipzig from Salzburg in the same summer.

    "Although many external United observers feel any spare income would be better spent on a physical, energetic central midfielder, Ruben Amorim spent most of last season moaning about his side's inability to score often enough," said Stone.

    "Clearly he feels an upgrade is required on Rasmus Hojlund at the top of the pitch. To that end, United are willing to listen to offers for Hojlund, which may end up being part of their negotiations with RB Leipzig."

    And he could be part of an all-new front line with Matheus Cunha, a summer signing from Wolves, and ex-Brentford man Mbeumo joining for about £130m in total this summer.

    He could get plenty of service from the three players nearest him if he was the focal point up top.

    Bruno Fernandes created more chances than any other Premier League player last season - 91 - with his team-mates scoring 10 of them.

    Mbeumo was fifth on the list, creating 70 chances for Brentford team-mates, and Cunha was 15th, with 57 opportunities laid on for Wolves players.



    Why might Sesko not want to join them?

    There are some fairly obvious reasons why Sesko might decide Old Trafford would not be the best destination to keep his career on this upward trajectory.

    For one, they are not in any European competition this season. Sesko has played in the Champions League in three of the past four seasons, and the Europa League in the other.

    And he would be joining a team who finished 15th last season, their worst campaign since they were relegated in 1973-74.

    Boss Amorim has been given the opportunity to rebuild this summer, having only taken over midway through last season - but a bad start could see a managerial change too.

    And Sesko would have to buck a fairly dramatic trend. There is a very strong argument that Portugal midfielder Fernandes is the only outright success United have had in the transfer market since 2016.




    Should he go to Newcastle United?


    Have they actually made a bid? Can they?


    Newcastle have made an offer of about £70m to sign Sesko and are still in discussions with Leipzig.

    They want him even if star striker Alexander Isak stays at the club - having previously tried to sign Hugo Ekitike from Eintracht Frankfurt to play with the Swede.

    Ekitike instead joined Liverpool, who incidentally want Isak and have had a £110m bid rejected by the Magpies.



    Why would Sesko want to join them?

    For one Sesko would be back in the Champions League if he were to join Newcastle, with the Magpies finishing fifth last season.

    He would be joining a seemingly upwardly mobile club - having ended their 56-year trophy drought by winning the Carabao Cup.

    Sesko has spent most of his time at Leipzig playing in a front two with Lois Openda - who was the second quickest player in the Bundesliga last season.

    So he would relish the opportunity to build a strike partnership with Isak - if he stays with the Magpies.

    And he could get plenty of chances too, with the second and third top assisters in the Premier League last season supplying him from the wings.

    Jacob Murphy had 12 assists with Anthony Elanga providing 11 for Nottingham Forest before his £55m move to Tyneside.



    Why might Sesko not want to join them?

    Whether Isak stays or goes could be seen as win-win or lose-lose for Sesko.

    If he goes, Sesko would be pretty much guaranteed the chance to start every game. But he may worry about the ambition of the club if they have just lost a key player.

    Likewise, if Isak stays, there is the danger he struggles for game time if Eddie Howe decides against a front two, or it is not successful, with Isak unlikely to be shoved out to the wing to make room for Sesko.

    Also if playing in the Champions League is a priority, he joins a team who have never been in the tournament proper in consecutive seasons - and never reached the knockout stages.

    This is only their third season in Europe since 2006–07.





    Should he stay at Leipzig?



    Could Leipzig still keep him?

    Leipzig do not need to sell Sesko - hence the high fee they are asking for, plus the reported desire for add-ons.

    They are having a summer rebuild, however, under new 37-year-old head coach Ole Werner.

    Six signings have come in so far for a combined £80m - but they are yet to make a major sale to free up funds.

    However, Chelsea are trying to sign Leipzig's attacking midfielder Xavi Simons in what would be a big-money move.



    Why would Sesko want to stay?

    Sesko might not be opposed to a third season at Leipzig, where he could play every game and try to improve on last season - where he scored one Bundesliga goal fewer than he did the previous campaign (13 v 14).

    But the major upside to staying might be waiting another season to see whether any established Champions League clubs could sign him.

    His fee means not many sides can afford him right now.

    But Bayern Munich striker Harry Kane is 32 and Barcelona frontman Robert Lewandowski is 36. So next season they might start looking to the future.

    Sesko has been linked to both sides before.

    Real Madrid's central striking options depend on less experienced options and Kylian Mbappe - so they may revisit things too.

    And he has also been linked to Arsenal - before they signed Viktor Gyokeres - and Chelsea this summer.

    So could Sesko take a 'wait and see what is on the table next summer' approach?



    Why might Sesko not want to stay?

    Of course Sesko may well feel his apprenticeship at Leipzig - and Red Bull clubs in general, having started at Salzburg - has been served.

    They are not in any European competition this season.

    He has consistently been linked to Premier League clubs in each transfer window for the past few years, despite only being 22, so the time might have come to take the plunge.

    On top of that if Leipzig have a new-look team and manager, this might be the time to go.

    And his strike partner Openda has also been linked with a move away - with Sunderland recently rumoured as a possible destination.





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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14746

      #2042
      Like Ekitike, with Sesko you are paying already a star prices for someone who is still miles away for that. Another huge gamble for United just like Hojlund and Zirkzee who are also still on the books.

      Really weird move once again from them.
      The curse is dead.

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 19357

        #2043
        Newcastle have completely botched this window.
        Ambition and ability mixed up. We can't match the sky 6 so need to be more strategic. Sesko wants to go to a big 6 club, fine let him go.

        We need to be looking at raising the floor, the ceiling is ok. Isak has caused problems though.

        I'd be happy with Watkins, Wissa and a CB.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • chef
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 14746

          #2044
          Watkins would be a better and smarter move for United.
          The curse is dead.

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14746

            #2045
            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            Newcastle have completely botched this window.
            Ambition and ability mixed up. We can't match the sky 6 so need to be more strategic. Sesko wants to go to a big 6 club, fine let him go.

            We need to be looking at raising the floor, the ceiling is ok. Isak has caused problems though.

            I'd be happy with Watkins, Wissa and a CB.
            PSR favours too few and stops teams like you guys and Aston Villa from pushing the boat out and be ambitious.

            Watkins and Wissa are better options than Sesko, so United are doing you a solid.
            The curse is dead.

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            • NAUGHTY100
              Draftee
              • Dec 2024
              • 641

              #2046
              Originally posted by chef
              Like Ekitike, with Sesko you are paying already a star prices for someone who is still miles away for that. Another huge gamble for United just like Hojlund and Zirkzee who are also still on the books.

              Really weird move once again from them.
              Good point about Sesko being a huge gamble chef , he scored only 13 goals last season in 33 appearances, thats about .39 of a goal per game , not real faltering numbers for a striker who has been called world class .
              Obviously his still young and still learning and has time on his side but at MAN. U he will be judged on preformance and i dont think he will have the luxury of time to hit form , they need him to hit the ground running and score regularly from the get go , and defenders in the English league are a different proposition then the Bundeslinga .
              He may succeed but he has to be given time and i dont think Man. U supporters will give him the time he needs .
              If Sesko dosnt score regularly early then supporters will be crying out for his head , and the pressure will only built on him , making it even harder for him to preform .
              Huge risk , and in my opinion they are in more need of a top midfielder , one that can control the play .

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              • NAUGHTY100
                Draftee
                • Dec 2024
                • 641

                #2047
                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                Newcastle have completely botched this window.
                Ambition and ability mixed up. We can't match the sky 6 so need to be more strategic. Sesko wants to go to a big 6 club, fine let him go.

                We need to be looking at raising the floor, the ceiling is ok. Isak has caused problems though.

                I'd be happy with Watkins, Wissa and a CB.
                I really can't get my head around what is happening at Newcastle , from all reports Sesko has turned his back on Newcastle , who were offering him more money , and the opportunity to play Champions league football , for a side who ended up 15th on the table with no European football , and a fan base that will be calling for his head if he dosn't perform straight away .
                Not many footballers from the Bundeslinga have walk stright into English football and hit the ground running , guys like Kia Havertz , Timo Werner, are examples of players who were talked about as world class , while in the Bundeslinga only to struggle in English football .
                As chef has said its a huge gamble for United , so maybe Newcastle has dogged a bullet.

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 22142

                  #2048
                  NUFC has recovered somewhat, but Isak carrying on like a ****wit has caused us all sorts of problems.

                  If we can land Wissa it will be a relief, but you can't replace Isak quality. I think our depth has broadly improved elsewhere.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 19357

                    #2049
                    Originally posted by jeemak
                    NUFC has recovered somewhat, but Isak carrying on like a ****wit has caused us all sorts of problems.

                    If we can land Wissa it will be a relief, but you can't replace Isak quality. I think our depth has broadly improved elsewhere.
                    Yes happy with everything except the Swedish House Mafia.

                    We need another striker on top of Wissa.
                    BT COME BACK!​

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 22142

                      #2050
                      Originally posted by Grantysghost

                      Yes happy with everything except the Swedish House Mafia.

                      We need another striker on top of Wissa.
                      I can't get over how much of a wanker he's being. He has three years left on his contract, and seems happy to leave the club and fans in the lurch and completely torch his reputation for selfish reasons.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14746

                        #2051
                        Originally posted by Grantysghost



                        We need another striker on top of Wissa.
                        unfortunately it'll be Jackson
                        The curse is dead.

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 22142

                          #2052
                          I'll take Archie Thompson at this point.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 19357

                            #2053
                            I got to see the greatest trophy on earth the Carabao cup up close and personal in Singapore. (queued for 30 mins to get a photo with it!).

                            Any silver ware is pretty amazing for us.

                            Geordies are so friendly we spoke to plenty of people from the NE. My wife speaking to a man in front of her, older gent with his family.

                            Born in the same hospital as her. Crazy!

                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 22142

                              #2054
                              Originally posted by Grantysghost
                              I got to see the greatest trophy on earth the Carabao cup up close and personal in Singapore. (queued for 30 mins to get a photo with it!).

                              Any silver ware is pretty amazing for us.

                              Geordies are so friendly we spoke to plenty of people from the NE. My wife speaking to a man in front of her, older gent with his family.

                              Born in the same hospital as her. Crazy!
                              Yeah apparently the NE has the highest total hospitals per capita so the chances are rare!

                              Ok OK, sorry about that. That's awesome stuff GG. Unfortunately my most recent up close and personal cup experience was with the 2021 AFL Premiership Cup when I happened upon a boomer function at Montalto winery. It was just sitting outside on a table while the function was inside, and I seriously considered swiping it!
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19357

                                #2055
                                Originally posted by jeemak

                                Yeah apparently the NE has the highest total hospitals per capita so the chances are rare!

                                Ok OK, sorry about that. That's awesome stuff GG. Unfortunately my most recent up close and personal cup experience was with the 2021 AFL Premiership Cup when I happened upon a boomer function at Montalto winery. It was just sitting outside on a table while the function was inside, and I seriously considered swiping it!
                                Ha. It's a little hospital in a place called Shotley Bridge so it's pretty rare!
                                BT COME BACK!​

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