DRS - What's the solution?

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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #16
    Re: DRS - What's the solution?

    Originally posted by lemmon
    What happens to standing umpires? Do they stay out there?
    Therein stands the dilemma. You don't want innate hatstands, but we do want correct decisions. What's your solution lem?
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Topdog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7471

      #17
      Re: DRS - What's the solution?

      Originally posted by The Coon Dog
      I reckon its a bit harsh the flak Clarke is copping to be honest. The ball was shown to have just clipped the top of the stumps, one many an umpire would have given not out.

      Most batsmen in that situation would look to challenge (perhaps after consultation with their partner) & had there not been 2 howlers later on we wouldn't be having this discussion.

      Surely the umpires, not Clarke are culpable in this situation.

      Hindsight is a wonderful thing to have & we may be fortunate to have that if the DRS is changed as I said earlier to leave it all up to the umpire.
      Because they got the Clarke decision right and the other 2 wrong?

      Umpires make mistakes, always have and always will. It's up to the players to be certain before over ruling it.

      Clarke took a chance and it didnt pay off. Think he was right to do it as it was close.

      The Ponting ones were never close and always arrogant. People like him are why there is only 1 challenge an inning.

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      • lemmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2008
        • 6522

        #18
        Re: DRS - What's the solution?

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        Therein stands the dilemma. You don't want innate hatstands, but we do want correct decisions. What's your solution lem?
        Its probably not the most popular decision but I would be scrapping DRS and handing it all back to the umps. We did it for 150 years that way, wrong decisions were made, games were won and lost on them, careers were saved and ended but the game moved forward.

        If DRS was in place we wouldn't have had the classic in Hobart in 1999 against Pakistan, the Edgbaston test may have gone to the Aussies in 2005 if the third umpire had believed Kaspas hand was off the bat, the Aussies would've been 2-nil up and romped home with the Ashes...instead we got not only perhaps the most iconic image of the sport in Lee and Flintoff but also the greatest series of all time. I'm starting to believe that clinical correctness that DRS is meant to produce may not be in the games best interest.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66738

          #19
          Re: DRS - What's the solution?

          Originally posted by lemmon
          Its probably not the most popular decision but I would be scrapping DRS and handing it all back to the umps. We did it for 150 years that way, wrong decisions were made, games were won and lost on them, careers were saved and ended but the game moved forward.

          If DRS was in place we wouldn't have had the classic in Hobart in 1999 against Pakistan, the Edgbaston test may have gone to the Aussies in 2005 if the third umpire had believed Kaspas hand was off the bat, the Aussies would've been 2-nil up and romped home with the Ashes...instead we got not only perhaps the most iconic image of the sport in Lee and Flintoff but also the greatest series of all time. I'm starting to believe that clinical correctness that DRS is meant to produce may not be in the games best interest.
          This^^^ Well said Lemmon, I am with you and the Indians.
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          • Flamethrower
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2009
            • 1388

            #20
            Re: DRS - What's the solution?

            The 3rd umpire should review every dismissal, therefore the batting team wouldn't need to review any decisions.

            The DRS would only be used by the fielding team when they think an umpire has made an error. Give them 3 unsuccessful challenges in tests, 2 in ODIs and 1 in T20s.

            The worst part of the DRS is when a howler is made by an umpire but the affected team is out of challenges and the decicion stands. Having the 3rd ump review every dismissal would eliminate a lot of these situations.
            Footscray member since 1980.

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            • Throughandthrough
              Coaching Staff
              • Nov 2007
              • 3201

              #21
              Re: DRS - What's the solution?

              Clarke consulted with Warner before reviewing.

              And, from my facebook

              Hey I have an idea for the 3rd umpire in cricket. Rather then wasting 3 minutes seeing if it was a no ball, and then if it hit the bat from 3 different angles, then from hot spot and then snickometer, then if it hit in line, the first thing they should do is see if it was even gonna hit the bloody wicket...

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #22
                Re: DRS - What's the solution?

                Faf was pretty happy with having the DRS twice in Adelaide. It would have been a cruel twist if he was denied his innings due to non-dismissals.

                Would you categorise it as wrong that the third umpire got the decisions correct?
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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