1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

[Mantis]

Re: 1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

Even though the 2nd innings bowling from us wasn't as good as the first we still managed to keep them under 400 runs.

375 in the 3rd innings of a game is still a big score... If we had knocked them over for 100 less we would have won.

how any extra runs did Agar get when he should have been out stumped?

Why should he have been out stumped?

Both the officiating & 3rd umpire gave him not out.

[westdog54]

Re: 1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

how any extra runs did Agar get when he should have been out stumped?

You cannot possibly say that there was no doubt whatsoever that it was out. I couldn't be certain of it and the last time I got an eye test I was told not to come back for 3 years.

Agar's was a benefit of the doubt decision. Broad's was simply a howler.

[Remi Moses]

Re: 1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

how any extra runs did Agar get when he should have been out stumped?

That was completely inconclusive. Give it a spell!
Losing a clutter of wickets cost the Aussies.

[Remi Moses]

Re: 1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

You cannot possibly say that there was no doubt whatsoever that it was out. I couldn't be certain of it and the last time I got an eye test I was told not to come back for 3 years.

Agar's was a benefit of the doubt decision. Broad's was simply a howler.

Exactly .

[chef]

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how any extra runs did Agar get when he should have been out stumped?

92..

[Topdog]

Re: 1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

You cannot possibly say that there was no doubt whatsoever that it was out. I couldn't be certain of it and the last time I got an eye test I was told not to come back for 3 years.

Agar's was a benefit of the doubt decision. Broad's was simply a howler.

and Trott's LBW was a howler. Decisions go for and against you every game. The constant whinging by the Australian media and public is really out of control.

[Greystache]

Re: 1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

and Trott's LBW was a howler. Decisions go for and against you every game. The constant whinging by the Australian media and public is really out of control.

Trott's howler?

Other than the English commentary team (and obviously Aleem Dar MBE) I'm yet to find anyone who thought it was anything other than out. Hitting middle halfway up with nothing other than English hope to suggest he hit it.

For decisions to go for and against you they have to actually go both ways.

[Topdog]

Re: 1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

He was given not out and was overturned by a review system that didnt have hot spot available for what certainly looked to me like a ball that hit the bat. Not sure how that can be seen as not going our way.

You are actually the first person I have seen that has thought that this was a decision that didnt go our way.

[Greystache]

Re: 1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

To describe it as a howler is beyond exaggeration.

[Remi Moses]

Re: 1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

Credit to Haddin, he's been excellent and had played the right way. Let's hope we can knock off another 20.

Couldn't agree more . Very responsible innings from Haddin, and lets hope it continues.
Very good knock from Hughes in the first dig that virtually went unnoticed.

[Bornadog]

Re: 1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

Couldn't agree more . Very responsible innings from Haddin, and lets hope it continues.
Very good knock from Hughes in the first dig that virtually went unnoticed.

Lets hope he can keep wicket better.

[Topdog]

Re: 1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

To describe it as a howler is beyond exaggeration.

It was overturned despite there being no evidence to actually overturn the decision. I call that a howler.

[MrMahatma]

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To describe it as a howler is beyond exaggeration.

I thought there was a pretty decent inside edge on it.

Do the DRS guys only use hot spot now, not the actual footage?

[Topdog]

Re: 1st Test- England V Australia, Trent Bridge.

That was part of the controversy. Hot spot wasnt available for that decision as the operator forgot to turn it back on or something silly like that.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/11/ashes-2013-england-cricket-team

Trott had been given out lbw by the third umpire, Marais Erasmus, who overruled the original not-out decision of Aleem Dar even though the crucial Hot Spot angle was not available to determine whether the ball had hit bat before pad.

Brennan explained that the operator in question had not "triggered the system for the Trott delivery" because he was waiting to offer a replay of the previous ball from which Joe Root was given caught behind down the leg side. Root was left to regret his failure not to call for a review, as those replays showed no proof that he had edged Mitchell Starc's delivery.