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  • hujsh
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    • Nov 2007
    • 11849

    #16
    Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    They are off to a quick start aided by two average overs from Johnson.
    Would it be fair to say he bowls better with the old ball and that Clark would make more impact with it
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    • Go_Dogs
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      • Jan 2007
      • 10168

      #17
      Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

      Tait has been extremely frustrating to watch. Lee, Clark and Johnson need big days.

      Interesting to see how some genuine swing bowling knocked us over so easily, whilst the Indian batsmen are making it look reasonably easy out there.
      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11849

        #18
        Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

        Originally posted by Griffen#16
        Tait has been extremely frustrating to watch. Lee, Clark and Johnson need big days.

        Interesting to see how some genuine swing bowling knocked us over so easily, whilst the Indian batsmen are making it look reasonably easy out there.
        Our bowlers aren't as reliant on swing as theirs and use pace/seam more.
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        • LostDoggy
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          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #19
          Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

          Though the bowlers aren't swinging it I don't put all the blame on the bowlers.
          Indias 330 in the first innnings is not a huge total but the Australian reply was only 213? Thats pressure on the bowlers straight away.
          Not sure about the wisdom in getting a 30yo Rogers in for 1 test. Seems the only reason he was picked were he is an opener and he is from WA. He was opening with another relatively inexperienced opener. In hindsight it was probably better moving Hussey into open for 1 test and getting a better performed middle order bat.

          I also believe Michael Clarke is your typical flat track bully and over rated. He dropped 1 sitter and another not too difficult chance yesterday. So much for being a great fielder.

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          • Go_Dogs
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            • Jan 2007
            • 10168

            #20
            Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            I agree with this as well. I'm not convinced that Clarke has what it takes and in fact I don't think he should be talked about being a potential captain for the team. He has talent but I'd question his application.
            Almost everyone I have talked cricket with recently are saying similar things. Clarke just hasn't been good enough for mine, and if it weren't for his success with the ball, he'd be having some serious questions asked of him.
            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44729

              #21
              Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

              Originally posted by Griffen#16
              Almost everyone I have talked cricket with recently are saying similar things. Clarke just hasn't been good enough for mine, and if it weren't for his success with the ball, he'd be having some serious questions asked of him.
              Is the cupboard staring to get bare though?

              Who would be in our 2nd 11?

              Rogers
              Hodge
              Hussey, D
              Pomersbach
              Katich
              Voges
              Haddin
              Noffke
              Tait
              Hilfenhaus
              MacGill

              Shaun Marsh probably should be in there somewhere but it's not a convincing line up.
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              • LostDoggy
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                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #22
                Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                I'm not in favour of moving a well performed middle order player to open the innings. Dravid for example struggled with it. Opening is a specialist role and Rogers was the best performed opener so it was the right decision although a few things didn't go his way.
                Well for 1 test I think it would have been ok.
                In the end the lost of early wickets in both innings virtually made the midorder openers anyway.

                If they wanted experienced player they could have gone for Hodge though not that I'm a fan.
                Again it was only 1 test and its the test to break a record.
                Last edited by LostDoggy; 19-01-2008, 05:16 PM.

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                • GVGjr
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                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44729

                  #23
                  Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

                  Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                  Well for 1 test I think it would have been ok.
                  In the end the lost of early wicket in both innings virtually made the midorder openers anyway.

                  If they wanted experienced player they could have gone for Hodge though not that I'm a fan.
                  Again it was only 1 test and it the test to break a record.
                  But sooner than later a decision still has to be made on who replaces Hayden or fills in for either he or Jacques if they are injured. Best to test the waters with someone who has legitimate claims to the spot not just a stop gap.
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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11849

                    #24
                    Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

                    Clarke is playing well today at least. He has had 1 bad test all summer and people are calling for his head . He made a hundred in Brisbane ,a 70 in Hobart, a 70 in Melbourne and is 70 not out now. Not axe worthy.

                    He's a good ground fielder but not the first slip we want
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                    • LostDoggy
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                      • Jan 2007
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                      #25
                      Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

                      Originally posted by hujsh
                      Clarke is playing well today at least. He has had 1 bad test all summer and people are calling for his head . He made a hundred in Brisbane ,a 70 in Hobart, a 70 in Melbourne and is 70 not out now. Not axe worthy.

                      He's a good ground fielder but not the first slip we want
                      Given Clarke played better today, still lost his head when a calm one was required.

                      Clarke hasn't had just 1 bad test either, he had poor tour of the UK last Ashes series. He is the golden boy so he has been given every chance and then some.
                      Flat track bully is apt cos he will make runs against poor bowling on flat decks and leave you disappointed usually against good bowling

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                      • hujsh
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11849

                        #26
                        Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

                        Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                        Given Clarke played better today, still lost his head when a calm one was required.

                        Clarke hasn't had just 1 bad test either, he had poor tour of the UK last Ashes series. He is the golden boy so he has been given every chance and then some.
                        Sorry i meant this summer

                        I do agree he has been a flat track bully so far when i think about it. At least today wasn't too easy.

                        The test was probably lost before Clarke went out however
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                        • LostDoggy
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                          • Jan 2007
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                          #27
                          Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

                          Originally posted by hujsh
                          The test was probably lost before Clarke went out however
                          Yes when he dropped Dravid in the first innings

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11849

                            #28
                            Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

                            Originally posted by ErnieSigley
                            Yes when he dropped Dravid in the first innings
                            Yeah that was big. And such an easy catch. At least Haydos should be back next week.

                            Who would you want at first slip ahead of Clarke. I reckon Hussey would do it.
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                            • Dry Rot
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                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6450

                              #29
                              Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

                              Originally posted by hujsh
                              Sorry i meant this summer

                              I do agree he has been a flat track bully so far when i think about it. At least today wasn't too easy.

                              The test was probably lost before Clarke went out however

                              Fair enough - there are enough NSW players to replace him.

                              Ditto Gilchrist (Haddin) and Tait/Johnson (Bollinger/Nicholson/MacGill)
                              The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                              • Mantis
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                                • Apr 2007
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                                #30
                                Re: 3rd test - Australia vs India

                                Originally posted by Dry Rot
                                Fair enough - there are enough NSW players to replace him.

                                Ditto Gilchrist (Haddin) and Tait/Johnson (Bollinger/Nicholson/MacGill)
                                Haddin - May have missed his chance. Personally I would look at a younger option.

                                Nicholson- haha.

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