Following our exes...................

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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21368

    Re: Following our ex's...................

    Originally posted by Greystache
    We actually got their first and second round pick in exchange for Lake and our second round pick.
    Whoops, I should have double checked before I tried to make that point I botched!
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11042

      Re: Following our ex's...................

      Respectfully agree to disagree. The swapping of 2nd round picks was unnecessarily generous - we could have got pick 21 for Lake on its own, kept pick 27 and then got Stevens for our 3rd round pick which was only a few spots after Hawthorn's 2nd round pick.

      All academic.
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • jazzadogs
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Oct 2008
        • 5430

        Re: Following our ex's...................

        Yeh the addition of pick 27 definitely weighted the trade in Hawthorn's favour.

        We can say that we underestimated Lake's ability to contribute in the last three years, but I would argue his best games were finals each year. Mid-season he just scraped along, and if he had stayed with us that would be the consistent output we could have expected.

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        • chef
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 14448

          Re: Following our ex's...................

          I guess the problem is if you try and 'win' every trade no ones going to want to deal with you. Sometimes you get a bargain and sometimes you pay overs, it's the nature of the beast.

          Lake was a cracking trade(if Hrovat hangs around on goes onto being a long term doggie)
          The curse is dead.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            Re: Following our ex's...................

            Originally posted by chef
            I guess the problem is if you try and 'win' every trade no ones going to want to deal with you. Sometimes you get a bargain and sometimes you pay overs, it's the nature of the beast.

            Lake was a cracking trade(if Hrovat hangs around on goes onto being a long term doggie)
            Agree with comments on trade. Best ones are where everyone walks away a little stronger, by trading players/picks that are a better fit.

            If Lake comes back to us for a successful year and Hrovat gives us another 100+ games (or we trade him for someone who does), the Lake/Hrovat trade will have to go down as a success.

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            • Twodogs
              Administrator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27645

              Re: Following our ex's...................

              Originally posted by chef
              I guess the problem is if you try and 'win' every trade no ones going to want to deal with you. Sometimes you get a bargain and sometimes you pay overs, it's the nature of the beast.

              Lake was a cracking trade(if Hrovat hangs around on goes onto being a long term doggie)
              Yep. It's the price of doing business.
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • Happy Days
                Hall of Fame
                • May 2008
                • 10008

                Re: Following our ex's...................

                Jason Tutt is in my office as we type. I could literally follow him if you guys want.
                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65553

                  Re: Following our ex's...................

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  Jason Tutt is in my office as we type. I could literally follow him if you guys want.
                  Ask him if he regrets wanting out at the club.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Following our ex's...................

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    Jason Tutt is in my office as we type. I could literally follow him if you guys want.
                    Can you ask him why he left? Inside scoop on Macca and Shocktober would be good too?
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • Dancin' Douggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 2877

                      Re: Following our ex's...................

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      Absolutely correct in the Griffen scenario but how on earth can you conclude we were in a weak position on day 1 of a 3 week trade period with the Lake scenario? There was no negotiation - we simply accepted the first ambit claim offered to us. We had the commodity that the other party was desperate for - Clarko just lost the 2011 PF by a kick and the 2012 GF by a kick and was not prepared to wait around for another 12 months to fix up his defence. Lake was now or never for them - we knew this and yet we made it awfully easy for them to get him.
                      I'm with you Sedat. It's all water under the bridge now...... but the first day of a 3 week negotiation window?
                      I'm 99% certain we could have got a better deal out of the hawks. It's the swap of picks that is the sticking point for me.

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                      • Happy Days
                        Hall of Fame
                        • May 2008
                        • 10008

                        Re: Following our ex's...................

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Can you ask him why he left? Inside scoop on Macca and Shocktober would be good too?
                        Didn't get a chance to ask him anything, but I think we all know why he left.
                        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          Re: Following our ex's...................

                          Originally posted by Happy Days
                          Didn't get a chance to ask him anything, but I think we all know why he left.
                          That weird long stalker like stare you game him the whole time he was at your work?
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • Happy Days
                            Hall of Fame
                            • May 2008
                            • 10008

                            Re: Following our ex's...................

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            That weird long stalker like stare you game him the whole time he was at your work?
                            Why he left the coffee room maybe, but not the club.
                            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                            • AndrewP6
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 8142

                              Re: Following our ex's...................

                              Adam Cooney's Twitter profile had him not as an AFL footballer, but in "client relations", with "Podium Finance". Preparing for post footy life, obviously. The company also features Tom Williams, Mark Austin and director Rick Olarenshaw. Coons was at Tommy's wedding, along with a who's who of former Bulldogs.
                              [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                              • Twodogs
                                Administrator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27645

                                Re: Following our ex's...................

                                What does Podium Finance finance do you know?

                                Rick has gone a fair way starting from his dad's paint shop in Sunshine.
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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