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Fergus’s injuries when he was with us really made it tough for him to break into the side. It seemed to me his body might be too frail for AFL. I thought he showed a fair bit of talent and endeavour and was hoping he’d be kept on list. Good luck to him.Josie :)
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He was he natural heir to the Tory Dickson throne. Injuries did came at the wrong time for him when he was with us, so I can sort of understand why we delisted him, but some of the other list management decisions around the same time were head-scratchers.
Hope he goes well at the Hawks, he deserves it."Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"Comment
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Fergus Greene on his journey from Western Bulldogs to Box Hill to Hawthorn
Sam Mitchell just wanted to be sure.
Hawthorn was strongly considering giving Fergus Greene his second shot in the AFL, but the Hawks coach needed to hear it from Greene that it was actually what the forward wanted.
After all, Greene had been out of the system for two years, hadn’t played an AFL match in more than four seasons, and in many respects had moved on with his life. He was working full-time as a sales rep, and having missed out in the mid-season draft earlier in the year had all but accepted that his chance had come and gone.
The only thing was, Greene kept kicking goals. Thirty for Box Hill in the abridged VFL season and then another 53 in 2022 to narrowly miss winning the Frosty Miller medal as competition leading goalkicker. Hawthorn had just lost Jack Gunston to Brisbane, so the prospect of a soon-to-be 25-year-old medium forward was alluring.
But it had to be Greene’s call about whether to proceed. Mitchell needed to check.
“He said, ‘there’s a chance, but I had to call and make sure it’s actually what you wanted to do,’” Greene says of that phone call from Mitchell, who had coached him at Box Hill in 2021.
Realistically, it was not a tough choice.
“I think the decision was made once the phone call came,” Greene says.
“Every decision I’d made over the last two years was to try and get back on a list at some point.”
Greene was prepared. But the Hawks still hadn’t committed.
“I didn’t hear anything for a while. That was awful, that silence. I’m an anxious person at the best of times,” Greene adds.
“There was a little bit of interest elsewhere that might have helped get the ball rolling a little bit quicker.”
But Greene was intent on being a Hawk, albeit an AFL one rather than a VFL one.
“My whole goal was to be at Hawthorn if I could get there, purely because of Sam and my relationship with him prior.”
And so come the delisted free agent window, Greene was signed. And with Mitch Lewis sidelined early in the season with a knee injury, a man who hasn’t played an AFL game since round 23, 2018 could end up playing an important role inside the Hawks’ forward 50 come round one.
It would cap a remarkable revival for a player whose last AFL appearance came against a Richmond side that featured Alex Rance. Yes, it was that long ago.
Greene spent four years on the Western Bulldogs list but his five AFL matches to date came inside a month at the tail-end of a forgettable season for the Dogs. He kicked one major in each of those games, showing signs that he could be a competent AFL player.
But injuries cruelled his 2019 season, leaving him with an uphill battle to save his career at Whitten Oval in 2020. Then came the pandemic, and the cards were further stacked against him.
“I really loved my time [at the Dogs]. I made some connections and relationships that I will still have for a long time,” Greene says.
“It was disappointing how it all sort of finished with the hub. I missed a lot of time through injury. With that came frustration.
“Playing those 14, 15 [a side] hub games didn’t give me the best opportunity to showcase what I can do.”
He also had a sense that the Dogs were focusing on what he couldn’t do, rather than what he could.
“I think it was just that physicality defensively, bringing that pressure. I think my intent’s always there, it was probably more technically something that I’ll always try and work on.”
Along came then Box Hill general manager Daniel Napoli and senior assistant Andy Collins. They caught up with Greene and found a footballer at a low ebb.
“They were really big on telling me what they thought I could do, and all my strengths. When you get delisted, you’re told everything you’re really poor at. And you feel quite low personally and in regards to your footy,” Greene says.
“Box Hill were really big on trying to build the confidence back up.
“I think I have real offensive traits that are strengths. I enjoy kicking goals, I have a high workrate.”
The Box Hill-Hawthorn alignment has been the most enduring in the VFL, and the path from Box Hill City Oval to Waverley was well worn. Greene hoped that VFL form could translate to a second opportunity, but drafts came and went without his name being read out.
It was “alarming” for Greene when he received little interest at the end of 2021, leaving Greene to enter 2022 focusing more on a Box Hill premiership than any AFL dream.
But he started the year well again, and his hopes were once more raised. It meant that last year’s mid-season draft was the toughest blow.
“I always felt like if I got the opportunity I could really grab it,” Greene said.
“The mid-season draft came and went, I’d had conversations with Hawthorn in 2021 and 2022, and got passed over. I remember 2022 mid-season that was my last crack at it. That was a really tough night. I don’t think any of the boys at Box Hill knew I’d spoken to Hawthorn. That was a really rough couple of days post-that, thinking I might be done.”
However with the support of partner Sarah and his family, Greene persisted. Then came the phone call, and soon it could be a sixth AFL match.
He’s had to park the sales rep work, and is still living in Yarraville, a fair commute from Waverley. Teammates even try to guess how long it will take him, often nailing it at around 52 minutes.
It’s a small price to pay for a player who despite his limited AFL experience is something of a senior citizen at the young Hawks.
“I’m the eighth-oldest, which is very confronting.
“I’ve really enjoyed it to this point.
“In terms of the playing group and coaches, I couldn’t be more rapt with the group I’ve landed at. Especially given I have a relationship with a lot of them through Box Hill anyway.
“I’ll do my best to help the team in whatever way I can. ”Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"Comment
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Good luck to FergusFFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.Comment
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I'll bite - I don't see it.
He was an 'ok' footballer and handy depth, but he was nowhere near Tory Dickson in any way shape for form. He gets opportunities in the F50, almost exclusively from low-percentage angles. He was also pretty low production so wasn't getting a heap of the ball when he wasn't scoring. Marra & Hannan as those 3rd/4th forwards would be well ahead.
I like the guy and hope he does well, he just wasn't for us anymore.Western Bulldogs: 2016 PremiersComment
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His type is very Tory Dickson-esque. He was/is nowhere near the level of course - not many are, Dickson was an elite medium forward who actually raised his game in finals against the best in the business. But Greene IMO had potential to develop into that role if it wasn't for untimely injuries and then hub life. I don't disagree with the club's decision to cut him, just that some other players at the time were afforded greater opportunities to remain on the list that were baffling."Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"Comment
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For Happy Days.
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Paddo is a great part of Brissy. I doubt though we'll be seeing Dunks and Tippa down at the Paddo tavern for their Monday Karaoke and cheap steak nightComment
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Dickson was a Macca pick and was tried and sentenced as no good before he started playing.Originally posted by hujshComment
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