Gold Coast Suns

[1eyedog]

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I've played cricket still tripping from the night before. It wasn't a good experience.

Ha ha standing at the crease to anything more than medium pace is an anxious experience in itself! I don't know how you walked out there.

I thought I was at Kardinia Park playing football for the Bulldogs under lights one rainy night. Turns out I was just in a gutter full of water staring straight up into a street light. The realisation of that was devastating. Anyhoo...

[Bornadog]

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mmmmm.............when will people learn when they have a great opportunity to make something of them selves and they can blow it on some illegal substance.

[Drunken Bum]

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mmmmm.............when will people learn when they have a great opportunity to make something of them selves and they can blow it on some illegal substance.

Not the place to be having this discussion but when will people learn to stop being so judgmental of others on a subject they know very little of. FWIW a lot of these illegal drugs are powerful medicines that have been used for many 1000's of years and there is scientific data backing up there effectiveness, as i said not the time and place for this discussion but feel free to PM if you would like to actually learn something of them rather than judging me for my personal choices that have improved my life and my mental well being immeasurably on top of making me a better more socially aware, loving and caring person.
Feel free to judge me all you want once you have educated yourself on the subject but i suspect you wont bother because your mind is already made up

Apologies for taking the thread off track

[Bornadog]

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Not the place to be having this discussion but when will people learn to stop being so judgmental of others on a subject they know very little of. FWIW a lot of these illegal drugs are powerful medicines that have been used for many 1000's of years and there is scientific data backing up there effectiveness, as i said not the time and place for this discussion but feel free to PM if you would like to actually learn something of them rather than judging me for my personal choices that have improved my life and my mental well being immeasurably.
Feel free to judge me all you want once you have educated yourself on the subject but i suspect you wont bother because your mind is already made up

Apologies for taking the thread off track

You are right about a couple of things.

1. Not the place to have a full blown discussion on drugs
2. They are illegal

My point is the opportunity to play football and earn 300k, 400k, 500k, or even a million dollars, can be thrown out the door because of having a so called good time with some illegal substance. Sounds simplistic, it is.

BTW: I don't care what the general public does in there spare time. Sports people are different. We have 35,000 members sweating on what our players will do and if they stuff up, then its really disappointing.

[Drunken Bum]

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Sounds simplistic, it is.

We agree on one thing then

BTW: I don't care what the general public does in there spare time. Sports people are different. We have 35,000 members sweating on what our players will do and if they stuff up, then its really disappointing.

They're young men who perform a high pressure job, media and fans acting like they are somehow more accountable than us is half the problem, they aren't role models, they're young blokes who happen to be gifted at a sport.
Bastardising a quote from George Carlin for cleanliness but if your kids need a role model and you aint it you're both stuffed

[Bornadog]

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They're young men who perform a high pressure job, media and fans acting like they are somehow more accountable than us is half the problem, they aren't role models, they're young blokes who happen to be gifted at a sport.
Bastardising a quote from George Carlin for cleanliness but if your kids need a role model and you aint it you're both stuffed

If it's so tough, they have a choice - don't play.

No sympathy from me.

[westdog54]

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The more I look at these photos, the more I think they were taken on a hidden camera.

Whilst I'm not condoning amphetamine use, this reeks of a sting.

I'd love to know EXACTLY how these images were obtained, and how much News Ltd paid to get them.

[Drunken Bum]

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If it's so tough, they have a choice - don't play.

No sympathy from me.

Once again an extremely simplistic view. It's no coincidence that the vast majority of addicts come from lower socioeconomic backgrounds, minorities and/or those suffering mental illness, yeah he could be just a young idiot with too much money on his hands that thinks he is invincible but i suspect there are other underlying reasons, for me myself it was severe clinical depression that caused me to turn to drugs, i just gave up, i didn't care anymore, i was always very anti drugs my whole life before then, i was lucky that i didn't fall in with the wrong crowd as i could very well be a junkie or dead by now and funnily enough it was some of these illegal drugs that helped heal me of that depression and changed me as a person for the better.
All i'm saying is don't be so quick to judge because you and i have no idea what has caused him to turn to them in the first place. Must be so easy for you living in a world where everything is black or white with nothing in between, pretty damn bland though

[GVGjr]

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Guys can we get back on track. Discussions should be primarily focused on what we know rather than specific drugs and I agree with an earlier post that mentioned that this is not the place to have a full blown discussion on drugs, With that in mind lets focus on the role the clubs and the AFL can play in ensuring that this type of issue doesn't become the norm.

My concern is still mainly around the Suns informing all and sundry that there was no problem at the club and really that has been proven an almost negligent position. The Suns have since come out and said they they will support Bennell and will take action in the best interests of the player concerned which is of course the correct thing to do.

I'm sure the AFL doesn't want to see another West Coast Eagles shambles and I hope clubs can play a more proactive role in steering players away from these sort of choices. Both the AFL and the Suns need to take the strongest action and if I was an AFL investigator I'd want to see the sorts of actions the Suns have conducted since some of the KMH evidence started to raise concerns.

[jeemak]

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I struggle with the almost laughing off and or denial of any such issues possibly existing at any club, including ours. It frustrates me no end when our supporters snigger at other clubs, knowing full well we're potentially just around the corner to being on the wrong end of a similar issue.

As an aside, if all of that Bogan Dust was solely for Bennell he'd have had the entire Grand Chancellor dusted and vacuumed by lunchtime.

[Twodogs]

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The more I look at these photos, the more I think they were taken on a hidden camera.

Whilst I'm not condoning amphetamine use, this reeks of a sting.

I'd love to know EXACTLY how these images were obtained, and how much News Ltd paid to get them.

The resolution screams phone camera to me.

[Remi Moses]

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I've played cricket still tripping from the night before. It wasn't a good experience.

Had a good mate who did it constantly in the 80's
Our opening bowler couldn't hit the wicket

[Twodogs]

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They had to keep moving me to spots where the ball wasn't likely to come but the batsman managed to keep hitting it toward me.

[Maddog37]

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Harley may not get back at all from this.

[Bornadog]

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Good article from Emma Quayle on Harley Bennell here

Hasn't had a particularly good up bringing and has found it tough being away from home in Perth. (I am not giving him excuses for drug taking.)

I think it was grossly unfair of News Corp to publish those 2 year old pics. Hopefully the kid can work it all out as he is an extremely talented footballer.