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  • Eastdog
    WOOF Communtiy Organiser
    • Feb 2012
    • 18321

    Round 14 Discussion

    Round 14 Fixture

    Date Home vs Away Venue Local AEST TV

    Thur, Jul 2 Sydney vs Port Adelaide SCG 7.20pm 7.20pm Seven

    Fri, Jul 3 Collingwood vs Hawthorn MCG 7.50pm 7.50pm Seven

    Sat, Jul 4 Richmond vs GWS Giants MCG 1.40pm 1.40pm Foxtel

    Sat, Jul 4 Gold Coast vs North Melbourne Metricon Stadium 4.35pm 4.35pm Foxtel

    Sat, Jul 4 Western Bulldogs vs Carlton Etihad Stadium 7.20pm 7.20pm Seven

    Sat, Jul 4 Melbourne vs West Coast TIO Stadium 7.10pm 7.40pm Foxtel

    Sun, Jul 5 Essendon vs St Kilda Etihad Stadium 1.10pm 1.10pm Foxtel

    Sun, Jul 5 Adelaide vs Geelong Adelaide Oval 2.50pm 3.20pm Seven

    Sun, Jul 5 Fremantle vs Brisbane Domain Stadium 2.40pm 4.40pm Foxtel
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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21991

    #2
    Re: Round 14 Discussion

    Jay Schultz is going to get weeks because of the outcome of a tackle that wasn't a sling tackle.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • Remi Moses
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 14785

      #3
      Re: Round 14 Discussion

      Oh Joy .
      One million Bryce Gibbs references

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      • westdog54
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6686

        #4
        Re: Round 14 Discussion

        Originally posted by jeemak
        Jay Schultz is going to get weeks because of the outcome of a tackle that wasn't a sling tackle.
        Still picked him up in the tackle. Lifted him of his feet, slung him and his head hit the ground. He's gone.

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          #5
          Re: Round 14 Discussion

          Well that's season over for Port.
          Two down on the pine, and typical of Sydney they find a way.
          Josh Kennedy prolific.
          Port are playing on their own terms, and their ball movement has been stymied.
          Can no longer find the corridor either.
          Big lesson for our club ,in that it doesn't just happen automatically

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          • Dry Rot
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6466

            #6
            Re: Round 14 Discussion

            Originally posted by Remi Moses
            Well that's season over for Port.
            Two down on the pine, and typical of Sydney they find a way.
            Josh Kennedy prolific.
            Port are playing on their own terms, and their ball movement has been stymied.
            Can no longer find the corridor either.
            Big lesson for our club ,in that it doesn't just happen automatically
            Was at the SCG tonight. Port's disposal by hand and foot was truly hideous. They could have won that.

            For the Swans, Sam Reid was surprisingly good. Kennedy, Parker and Hannebury excellent.

            Port were very disappointing, buggered if I know what has happened to them.
            The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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            • SonofScray
              Coaching Staff
              • Apr 2008
              • 4265

              #7
              Re: Round 14 Discussion

              The Gibbs penalty has set the tone now. If you perform a skill of the game, and the opposition is injured as a result of it, you're gone. Its a bullshit standard to have, but one that so many of us are prepared to accept because of the "head is sacrosanct" campaign.
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              • westdog54
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6686

                #8
                Re: Round 14 Discussion

                Originally posted by SonofScray
                The Gibbs penalty has set the tone now. If you perform a skill of the game, and the opposition is injured as a result of it, you're gone. Its a bullshit standard to have, but one that so many of us are prepared to accept because of the "head is sacrosanct" campaign.
                Here's the thing though. I've never regarded picking up a player in the tackle as a "Skill of the game". I'll say it again and again. Libba is the historical benchmark when it comes to tackling and he never, ever had to pick up a player in this manner to get the job done.

                The primary aim of a tackle should NEVER be to injure the player, but to win a free kick for your team. That is done by not allowing a player to dispose of the football, and you don't need to sling him into the ground to do it.

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18093

                  #9
                  Re: Round 14 Discussion

                  I've heard that the Gibbs one was a perfect tackle and what all kids are taught.

                  Pretty easy way to look at it: if the Gibbs/Schulz tackle is an example of a perfect tackle and a skill of the game, would we be happy every week to see players get knocked out as a result?

                  No, we wouldn't. Therefore, it's not a perfect example of a skill of the game.
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • Murphy'sLore
                    WOOF Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 2085

                    #10
                    Re: Round 14 Discussion

                    Surely the Adelaide/Geelong game will have to be cancelled now. What happens next? Is there any precedent for this kind of situation?

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 18093

                      #11
                      Re: Round 14 Discussion

                      Originally posted by Murphy'sLore
                      Surely the Adelaide/Geelong game will have to be cancelled now. What happens next? Is there any precedent for this kind of situation?
                      Pretty much unprecedented in elite sport in this country.

                      I guess you can look at the Phil Hughes tragedy. The Test match wasn't cancelled but postponed by a week. I think we could see this match pushed back until later in the year - perhaps a midweek fixture.

                      The horrible irony is that this match is vital to both teams finals chances, though that will be furtherest from Crows minds right now.
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67297

                        #12
                        Re: Round 14 Discussion

                        Originally posted by Murphy'sLore
                        Surely the Adelaide/Geelong game will have to be cancelled now. What happens next? Is there any precedent for this kind of situation?
                        You would think it will be deferred to a later part of the season
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                        • Bulldog Joe
                          Premiership Moderator
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5615

                          #13
                          Re: Round 14 Discussion

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          Pretty much unprecedented in elite sport in this country.

                          I guess you can look at the Phil Hughes tragedy. The Test match wasn't cancelled but postponed by a week. I think we could see this match pushed back until later in the year - perhaps a midweek fixture.

                          The horrible irony is that this match is vital to both teams finals chances, though that will be furtherest from Crows minds right now.
                          Very difficult with the overall schedule. In past seasons they have had a round spread over 2 weekends, which might have made it easier, but that is not there this year.

                          It would seem unlikely that they would defer the finals by a week, so if they don't play it may just need to be treated as an official draw with 2 points awarded to each team.
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                          • Ozza
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 6402

                            #14
                            Re: Round 14 Discussion

                            I don't see where they could schedule the game later in the year.
                            My first thought was match abandoned, split the points.

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                            • westdog54
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6686

                              #15
                              Re: Round 14 Discussion

                              Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                              Very difficult with the overall schedule. In past seasons they have had a round spread over 2 weekends, which might have made it easier, but that is not there this year.

                              It would seem unlikely that they would defer the finals by a week, so if they don't play it may just need to be treated as an official draw with 2 points awarded to each team.
                              I can see it happening this way. Whilst Adelaide players might want to play in Walsh's memory, I don't see that as being all that fair given the high stakes of the game.

                              2 Premiership Points each, 100 points to each in the F/A column for percentage purposes. A halfway poing might be to play the match but as an exhibition game, not for premiership points.

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