AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11046

    #76
    Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by comrade
    They're like a poor man's version of the late 2000s St Kilda. Top dozen are good, the rest are just list cloggers.
    If they were any more of a poor man's late 2000's St Kilda, they'd be standing on the street with a cup in their hand. That St Kilda team might have had plonkers like Brett Peake, Robert Eddy and Andrew McQualter, but their best 10-12 players were top-shelf elite (as we only know too well from experience).

    Richmond's list management decisions have been puzzling in the last couple of years. Actually they have been not dissimilar to some of our decisions in 2009-10. There are so many players in that team who have questions marks on them - there are simply too many holes on their list for them to contend with the current core. They might have to bite the bullet and clear out some of the mid-age dead wood, and take a step back to go 2 steps forward. Does Richmond have the bottle to make that tough call?

    It was really the perfect result yesterday. Norf will feel vindicated by their off-season topping up decisions and think they are closer to a flag than they really are - the reality is that their best player yesterday was a 37yo 400 gamer (he was awesome by the way). They might even load up on another couple of older types before it all comes crashing down next year when Dad's army all retire en masse.
    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #77
      Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

      How do people see next weeks matches - Haw v Ad @ MCG and Syd v NM @ Sydney?

      On the one hand Haw & Syd are looking decidedly beaten up, old and slow, on the other they are the proven finals pros.

      In the 2nd week of finals a lot of years, people get excited by the elimination final winners, but usually it's the top 4 teams who prevail.

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      • Webby
        WOOF Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 1880

        #78
        Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

        I think Adelaide will run Hawthorn pretty close and that Sydney will touch Norf up.

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        • Sedat
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2007
          • 11046

          #79
          Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
          How do people see next weeks matches - Haw v Ad @ MCG and Syd v NM @ Sydney?

          On the one hand Haw & Syd are looking decidedly beaten up, old and slow, on the other they are the proven finals pros.

          In the 2nd week of finals a lot of years, people get excited by the elimination final winners, but usually it's the top 4 teams who prevail.
          Reckon Hawthorn and Sydney are good things next week. Adelaide were ruthlessly efficient against us but they still conceded 65 inside 50's - if they do that next week they will lose by 10 goals. They will have to smash Hawthorn in the rucks and clearances to have any chance of getting close. They were also smashed on the spread against us, which is generally an area of strength for Hawthorn (although Smith is injured and Brad Hill is in horrible form). Hawks have sufficient defensive cover to keep Adelaide's tall forwards under control, but Betts and Cameron might pose a problem or two for their small defenders. Hawks by 4-6 goals easing up is my prediction.

          Swans were exceptionally good against Freo in a hostile away environment - their engine room (Kennedy and Hanneberry in particular) have raised their game to even higher levels, if it was at all possible. Tom Mitchell has stood up too. I doubt very much that Jacobs will be able to do a shut-down job on a Kennedy or Hanneberry that he was able to do on Cotchin yesterday. Their defenders suddenly became reliable one-on-one again - guys like Richards and Grundy have looked vulnerable at times this year but they were great on Saturday. Tippett really stepped up for them both in the ruck and up forward, and he'll need to again next week. Even with no Franklin, Reid, Jack, Parker and Smith, Norf simply don't have enough talent to trouble the top 4 teams in September. Sydney hardly give their depth players much of a chance but the likes of Dean Towers showed plenty when given the opportunity. Swans by 3-5 goals for me.
          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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          • Remi Moses
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 14785

            #80
            Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

            If North load up with the same back six, look to Sydney having a smaller mobile front half Saturday night.

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            • Happy Days
              Hall of Fame
              • May 2008
              • 10008

              #81
              Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

              Gotta say, Jarrad Waite might be an incredulous brain-dead knob, but jeez he knows when to turn up.
              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 17821

                #82
                Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Happy Days
                Gotta say, Jarrad Waite might be an incredulous brain-dead knob, but jeez he knows when to turn up.
                Speaks like a cretin but can take a grab.
                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                • Sedat
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 11046

                  #83
                  Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by comrade
                  Speaks like a cretin but can take a grab.
                  Sounds like the Duck, whose ability to take a strong 'grab' was as consistent in the front of nightclubs in the wee small hours of the morning as it was on the footy field
                  "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10008

                    #84
                    Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Sedat
                    Sounds like the Duck, whose ability to take a strong 'grab' was as consistent in the front of nightclubs in the wee small hours of the morning as it was on the footy field
                    I wonder if the prosecutors in the US brought up his contested marking stats as evidence as to why he should be able to hold on to a wine glass?
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • BornInDroopSt'54
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 5060

                      #85
                      Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

                      The granny this year is up for grabs. Pity we couldn't get across the line last week, we may have been able to pinch one against the odds.
                      Footscray Football Republic.

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                      • Murphy'sLore
                        WOOF Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2085

                        #86
                        Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

                        Thanks BIDS54. I feel so much better now

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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13119

                          #87
                          Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by BornInDroopSt'54
                          The granny this year is up for grabs. Pity we couldn't get across the line last week, we may have been able to pinch one against the odds.
                          Well that's just great.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • Remi Moses
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 14785

                            #88
                            Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

                            I don't think we were any chance to be honest.
                            Bring that lack of defensive pressure in the first half, and we'd be murdered by Hawthorn .

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                            • chef
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14450

                              #89
                              Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Remi Moses
                              I don't think we were any chance to be honest.
                              Bring that lack of defensive pressure in the first half, and we'd be murdered by Hawthorn .
                              Yep, it would have been nice to snag a final but we weren't winning the flag this season.
                              The curse is dead.

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                              • Sedat
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 11046

                                #90
                                Re: AFL Finals 2015 Discussion Thread

                                I'm more pissed off now than I was last week. Adelaide are nothing more than a middle of the road team and we made them look like millionaires.

                                Betts zero possessions - amazing what having an opponent can do.
                                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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