Mac Avaney madness

[jeemak]

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He really shouldn't sexualise players.

That's his only flaw in this context. Being gay isn't a crime, nor is it distasteful. Sexualising them is, and he does it all the time.

If he stopped sexualising players he wouldn't be ridiculed for it. Someone should really do something about his behaviour.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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That is very uncomfortable to listen to.

[hujsh]

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I'd argue it's more homophobic to assume gay people can't obey urinal etiquette.

[AndrewP6]

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I thought that pic was funny.

[jeemak]

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I'd argue it's more homophobic to assume gay people can't obey urinal etiquette.

My comment didn't have anything to do with the picture, and I don't think the picture in the broader context had anything to do with anything more than a person with a particular fixation.

But, it was released by TAB, so perhaps I'm giving too much credit for the non-malicious or homophobic intent (aren't I the snob?).

[hujsh]

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My comment didn't have anything to do with the picture, and I don't think the picture in the broader context had anything to do with anything more than a person with a particular fixation.

But, it was released by TAB, so perhaps I'm giving too much credit for the non-malicious or homophobic intent (aren't I the snob?).

My comment wasn't directed at anyone here, more the the people who supposedly claimed it was homophobic.

[Greystache]

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He really shouldn't sexualise players.

That's his only flaw in this context. Being gay isn't a crime, nor is it distasteful. Sexualising them is, and he does it all the time.

If he stopped sexualising players he wouldn't be ridiculed for it. Someone should really do something about his behaviour.

The problem is he is perceived, even if incorrectly, as homosexual or homosexually inclined, which puts him in the minority category, and in the current climate that makes him untouchable. If people were to call out his totally inappropriate conduct there would be an army of social justice warriors condemning them as being prejudiced dinosaurs and demanding they apologise/resign/offer their head to the baying masses.

Bruce can do as he likes until which point he offends another minority group, then he'll be strung up and never seen again. It's obsurd, but it's reality for the time being.

[bulldogtragic]

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The problem is he is perceived, even if incorrectly, as homosexual or homosexually inclined, which puts him in the minority category, and in the current climate that makes him untouchable. If people were to call out his totally inappropriate conduct there would be an army of social justice warriors condemning them as being prejudiced dinosaurs and demanding they apologise/resign/offer their head to the baying masses.

Bruce can do as he likes until which point he offends another minority group, then he'll be strung up and never seen again. It's obsurd, but it's reality for the time being.

I have no interest in the guy so I've no clue. When was Bruce formally or informally outed?

[Topdog]

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I'd argue it's more homophobic to assume gay people can't obey urinal etiquette.

Thats what I was thinking with my post but I didnt know how to word it without sounding like a twit. Spot on.

[Ozza]

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I have no interest in the guy so I've no clue. When was Bruce formally or informally outed?

He hasn't been. He has a wife (his second) and I'm pretty sure a couple of kids.

[jeemak]

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The problem is he is perceived, even if incorrectly, as homosexual or homosexually inclined, which puts him in the minority category, and in the current climate that makes him untouchable. If people were to call out his totally inappropriate conduct there would be an army of social justice warriors condemning them as being prejudiced dinosaurs and demanding they apologise/resign/offer their head to the baying masses.

Bruce can do as he likes until which point he offends another minority group, then he'll be strung up and never seen again. It's obsurd, but it's reality for the time being.

I get what you're saying, but I don't know whether I think it's unsolvable for the same reasons.

Ch7 must conduct market analysis that suggests he is still popular. That's what boggles the mind for me. Essentially this means the majority of football watchers think he's doing such a good job that his rampant sexualisation of players is inconsequential to the quality of the entertainment, they don't even know it's happening, or they believe it is appropriate.

I genuinely can't reconcile those three things. The only alternative I can come up with is Ch7 is trying to alter the way we behave as a society on a macro level, and his ongoing employment is a strategic aspect of a broader imperative.

[soupman]

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I get what you're saying, but I don't know whether I think it's unsolvable for the same reasons.

Ch7 must conduct market analysis that suggests he is still popular. That's what boggles the mind for me. Essentially this means the majority of football watchers think he's doing such a good job that his rampant sexualisation of players is inconsequential to the quality of the entertainment, they don't even know it's happening, or they believe it is appropriate.

I genuinely can't reconcile those three things. The only alternative I can come up with is Ch7 is trying to alter the way we behave as a society on a macro level, and his ongoing employment is a strategic aspect of a broader imperative.

Maybe the pure ineptness of the commentator group means that he comes across looking relatively popular and well informed in the surveys they do.

If asked what people wanted in a commentator they would probably highlight:
-Ability to keep up with the play
-Knowledge of who the players are
-Informative
-Passionate at the right moments
-able to inject excitement into the match
-able to bring the other commentators into it

He ticks all those boxes, except in weird ways. He knows and highlights too many obscure things about players, he is overly and weirdly passionate in his commentating, he keeps his colleagues involved by asking inane questions constantly, he certainly brings excitement to the table and to his credit he actually does get the players names right which is much more than can be said about others.

He has his faults, but most of them are because he gets weird and obscure more so than through not being able to do the job. I'm more worried about how the rest of their guys keep their jobs.

[jeemak]

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I'm shocked.

[Maddog37]

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Bruce needs to be the cold, concise anchor type role that brings us the meat and potatoes of the game. You then have guys like Commetti etc for a bit of humour and excitement.

The problem is that Bruce is trying to bring humour and flair to his call and it detracts from his true skills. Someone should give him some Ray Warren tapes to listen to.

[AndrewP6]

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If asked what people wanted in a commentator they would probably highlight:
-Ability to keep up with the play
-Knowledge of who the players are
-Informative
-Passionate at the right moments
-able to inject excitement into the match
-able to bring the other commentators into it

He ticks all those boxes, except in weird ways. He knows and highlights too many obscure things about players, he is overly and weirdly passionate in his commentating, he keeps his colleagues involved by asking inane questions constantly, he certainly brings excitement to the table and to his credit he actually does get the players names right which is much more than can be said about others.
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I'm not sure he does. He's passionate, sure, but waaaaay over the top. I don't find his calling exciting, but excruciating. His version of involving the others is to ask endless inane questions, which most of them ignore. He's informative, if you want to know useless stats.

Can't stand him.