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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    #16
    Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

    Personally, I just feel for the kid. And he's a kid. He's obviously struggling with something and that should be the end of it. Naval gazing at what Cam or GWS did or didn't do in a critical sense is just irrelevant and borderline insensitive. First and foremost he's a human struggling with something big enough to stop him from doing his dream job. Creating and/or apportioning blame is a futile act in this instance as it was with Mitch Clark requesting a trade. I hope the kid bounces back and reaches his potential, because he's got a heap of it.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 43887

      #17
      Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

      He is like any other person who needs to handle the challenges life presents. He has been given time to address whatever challenge he has. I wish him well but on face value homesickness isn't a massive problem when you are at home.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • F'scary
        WOOF Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 4089

        #18
        Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

        McCarthy must be really homesick, he has just walked away from a number preceded by $ sign and followed by 5 zeros.
        Officially on the Bus-wagon

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        • Twodogs
          Administrator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27645

          #19
          Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

          I genuinely hope all their players have reason to head home soon.

          GWS can pack up and bugger off as far as I am concerned. A complete waste of time and money.
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • ledge
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2007
            • 14028

            #20
            Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

            I don't get homesickness .. It's only 3 years and can set you up for life. At 21 you could own a house, let the contract run out and let your manager sort out a deal in your last year to go to what state you want.
            It's not like its forever 3 years is not much.
            Bring back the biff

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            • Greystache
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              #21
              Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              He is like any other person who needs to handle the challenges life presents. He has been given time to address whatever challenge he has. I wish him well but on face value homesickness isn't a massive problem when you are at home.
              I imagine he'll expect to be paid while not training or playing as well.
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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                #22
                Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

                Originally posted by ledge
                I don't get homesickness .. It's only 3 years and can set you up for life. At 21 you could own a house, let the contract run out and let your manager sort out a deal in your last year to go to what state you want.
                It's not like its forever 3 years is not much.
                I don't get it either, but I think that's the point, we don't understand it. I still remember two seperate cases, one my uncle and another a former brother in law. They both saved mega bucks to have the ultimate holidays one in America 20 years ago, the other Europe about 10 years ago and both for about a month or so. They both came home after about less than half the trip, despite everything being non refundable and doing the stuff they'd been dreaming of for a long, long time. They couldn't really explain the emotions or why the impulse and frantic need to get home was going against money sense, life experience sense etc, suffice to say it was causing real mental harm they were trying to stop, but could only really describe it as home sickness.

                I can only guess there's something upsetting his balance and well being as that's what the media are reporting. There's so many logical reasons put up in the thread, but sometimes apparent reasoning is not enough if you're unwell.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  #23
                  Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

                  Originally posted by Greystache
                  I imagine he'll expect to be paid while not training or playing as well.
                  Is he entitled to sick leave and/or annual leave until it is used up? Serious question as I assume footballers are entitled to it, but I've no idea.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • westdog54
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6683

                    #24
                    Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Is he entitled to sick leave and/or annual leave until it is used up? Serious question as I assume footballers are entitled to it, but I've no idea.
                    Having never read an AFL player's contract I have absolutely no idea but one would assume that once any annual leave entitlements were used up any further leave would be without pay.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      #25
                      Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

                      Originally posted by westdog54
                      Having never read an AFL player's contract I have absolutely no idea but one would assume that once any annual leave entitlements were used up any further leave would be without pay.
                      Or discretionary. Larger EBAs like police, fire and ambos allow for discretionary additional sick leave. Without reading the AFLPAs EBA I'd guess that might be in there. Mind you if I was GWS, I'd probably extend it if I thought there was a chance the compassion might be repaid in kind.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Greystache
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9775

                        #26
                        Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Is he entitled to sick leave and/or annual leave until it is used up? Serious question as I assume footballers are entitled to it, but I've no idea.
                        Given they've just come back from 8 weeks leave I don't see how he could have any available. As for sick leave, assuming they're generous, he would get perhaps 2 weeks paid until that ran out.

                        I'm wondering if he just expects to be paid regardless of whether he lives up to his end of his contract, following which he'll just walk to the club of his choice for more money again? Seems like a lot of these young players feel like they're owed a living regardless of what they give back.
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                        • Twodogs
                          Administrator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27645

                          #27
                          Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

                          Work over payments maybe! It's his employment far from home that has caused his acute Homesickness necessitating his return to WA and his inability to continue his employment.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            #28
                            Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

                            Originally posted by Twodogs
                            Work over payments maybe! It's his employment far from home that has caused his acute Homesickness necessitating his return to WA and his inability to continue his employment.
                            I was actually going to say that but I don't know much of the NSW system and didn't want to pour petrol on the thread. But he could do a lot worse than pay an expert personal injury lawyer to submit a work cover claim and see how he goes.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13120

                              #29
                              Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

                              Sunshine will be playing for a W.A team next year no two ways about it. Whether and for how long he plays at GWS this season is anyone's guess.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21400

                                #30
                                Re: Cam McCarthy goes home

                                It was a point lamented by AFL House. The early draft picks were supposed to be balanced between trades and drafting, but they were weighted towards the latter.

                                I still don't get how AFL clubs set up and controlled by the AFL could ride rough shod over that process and leave the expansion teams in such a mess.

                                But that's the AFL I guess. Small town and hick thinking is how they role.
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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