Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

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  • Ghost Dog
    WOOF Member
    • May 2010
    • 9404

    #16
    Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

    All AFL players should be required to have a normal job for part of the year. Even just for a week. It's the modern equivalent of the bloke on the back of the chariot, whispering to the emperor " You are mortal".
    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21829

      #17
      Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

      Originally posted by Twodogs
      To play the devils advocate. Because players are so well looked after financially isn't it incumbent on them to not only present themselves in pristine condition to their clubs for preseason and also to not risk the reputation of the sport, in short they don't want to kill the golden goose.
      To a point. But there's more people in society who earn more than the average AFL player earns than there is players in the AFL - perhaps by a multiple of ten.

      The average for the league is about $260k, it will make you sick to think that this is just a blimp on the earnings charts when you really dig into it.

      Yes, they earn more than you and I and while it is a high income it's not close to the pointy end of earnings, nor should it be something we use against them to challenge their social liberties over.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • chef
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 14618

        #18
        Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

        Young adults taking recreation drugs. No surprise here.
        The curse is dead.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66707

          #19
          Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

          Originally posted by chef
          Young adults taking illicit drugs. No surprise here.
          Edited for accuracy
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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14618

            #20
            Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Edited for accuracy
            What I said was accurate.

            Young guys caught taking recreation drugs. Not a huge deal IMO.
            The curse is dead.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66707

              #21
              Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

              Originally posted by chef
              What I said was accurate.

              Young guys caught taking recreation drugs. Not a huge deal IMO.
              I guess in the off season, the players can do what they want.
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • The Underdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2007
                • 6871

                #22
                Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

                Originally posted by chef
                Young adults taking illicit but fun drugs cut with some weird shit and with a problematic production and distribution history. No surprise here.
                Also edited for further accuracy. I'm not sure of my point but this story is completely unsurprising. And considering my brief survey of 35+ yo's at Golden Plains it's not confined to young adults.
                Park that car
                Drop that phone
                Sleep on the floor
                Dream about me

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44636

                  #23
                  Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

                  Originally posted by chef
                  What I said was accurate.

                  Young guys caught taking recreation drugs. Not a huge deal IMO.
                  It's actually a big deal especially given the numbers that are being quoted.

                  The excuse given of it being "not a big deal" and attributable to "Young people" is a poor indictment of peoples acceptance that it's inevitable.
                  Remember the players would be the most educated youngsters in the country of the pitfalls of drug use. To think 1 in 4 at a club have potentially just ignored the advice given or worse still think they know better is unacceptable really.

                  The AFL is just too accepting of drug use in the playing community and need to get back to basics. Lengthy bans might be the only solution now as educating the players isn't working.
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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27655

                    #24
                    Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

                    Originally posted by chef
                    What I said was accurate.

                    Young guys caught taking recreation drugs. Not a huge deal IMO.

                    For me a term like recreational drugs is problematic. I don't hide the fact that I am a recovering addict (8 years last month woo hoo!) and have massive problems with all sorts of substances. I have effectively cut my life short by years.

                    Anyway using recreational instead of Illegal or Illicit as a descriptor for drugs make them seem more alluring in a tiny way for mine. I'd rather we called them for what they are.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      #25
                      Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

                      Speaking of Collingwood

                      Maybe traces of drugs can account for Woofa's strange behaviour in this clip with the Collingwood mascot some time ago.

                      Scroll down....
                      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66707

                        #26
                        Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

                        Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                        Speaking of Collingwood

                        Maybe traces of drugs can account for Woofa's strange behaviour in this clip with the Collingwood mascot some time ago.

                        Scroll down....
                        where?
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66707

                          #27
                          Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

                          Just to be clear, these tests do not incur a strike under the system – rather, they allow the AFL's drug testers to zero-in on players and target test them.

                          Under the changes urine, hair and target-testing take place for AFL players year-round.

                          The system incorporates a three-strikes rule. The penalty for a first strike is a $5000 suspended fine. A second strike attracts a four-game ban and public naming and shaming, while the third strike incurs a 12-match suspension.
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • chef
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14618

                            #28
                            Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

                            Originally posted by Twodogs
                            For me a term like recreational drugs is problematic. I don't hide the fact that I am a recovering addict (8 years last month woo hoo!) and have massive problems with all sorts of substances. I have effectively cut my life short by years.

                            Anyway using recreational instead of Illegal or Illicit as a descriptor for drugs make them seem more alluring in a tiny way for mine. I'd rather we called them for what they are.
                            Fair enough mate, I had a fairly decent affair with rec drugs growing myself. Lost a few friends to it a long the way, but not as many to legal drugs like Smokes and booze which to me a are a far greater problem on society.

                            Maybe I'm a bit desensitised to it with the industry I work in and with the stories you hear about every club(form top AFL to some country clubs). It sadly is the norm for a lot of young adults nowadays.
                            The curse is dead.

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                            • Ghost Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 9404

                              #29
                              Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              where?
                              Hi BAD just below. The link color is really hard to see isn't it? ( I often have this problem )
                              You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                              • hujsh
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 11841

                                #30
                                Re: Robbo Reporting 11 Collingwood Players tested Positive to Drugs in Offseason

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                It's actually a big deal especially given the numbers that are being quoted.

                                The excuse given of it being "not a big deal" and attributable to "Young people" is a poor indictment of peoples acceptance that it's inevitable.
                                Remember the players would be the most educated youngsters in the country of the pitfalls of drug use. To think 1 in 4 at a club have potentially just ignored the advice given or worse still think they know better is unacceptable really.

                                The AFL is just too accepting of drug use in the playing community and need to get back to basics. Lengthy bans might be the only solution now as educating the players isn't working.
                                It is inevitable. Prohibition doesn't work. People will take drugs despite education or wealth. In fact the wealth and fame of the players just makes the drugs more accessible for them. The problem will go away in the AFL when it goes away in society.

                                Originally posted by Twodogs
                                For me a term like recreational drugs is problematic. I don't hide the fact that I am a recovering addict (8 years last month woo hoo!) and have massive problems with all sorts of substances. I have effectively cut my life short by years.

                                Anyway using recreational instead of Illegal or Illicit as a descriptor for drugs make them seem more alluring in a tiny way for mine. I'd rather we called them for what they are.
                                It's an arbitrary descriptor though as there's no real logic behind what's legal versus illegal.
                                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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