Gold Coast Suns - Scott Clayton

[bulldogtragic]

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Recruited Grant TWICE!

An Omni Poll released tonight said two thirds of Australian voters would do the same thing if given the opportunity.

[Twodogs]

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The AFL just doesn't understand this stuff. It is like the effect termites have.

The AFL's Operation Barbarossa.

[mjp]

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Great post Soupaman. I think the pre-draft picks (access to the 17yo's) also favoured the Giants...again, this is even more of a chook raffle because trying to figure out how 18yo's will react to being moved interstate is hard enough, let alone 17yo's.

GC didn't really stuff up except in one area - they picked mature age players with a flawed idea that having Ablett etc would enable them to play finals 'quickly' based on surrounding a few experienced heads with the best kids. The Giants watched and learned and spent their money 'less wisely' in many ways, betting on some kids (such as Ward) who were young and had shown 'something' but had hardly proved they were ready to play a key role in a premiership team (arguable with Ward I guess). They have also been pretty happy to 'trade out' players (Tyson etc) who had shown a bit in limited time to go back to the draft well again and again in order to find a pot of gold.

I am not as worried about the scourge of the Giants as everyone seems to be. It is very (very) hard to win a flag, they play bugger all games at the 'G, there is no guarantee they will get a home final at Spotless (ANZ anyone?) and the McCarthy situation will be played out (not to the same level I admit) with more players as time goes by...yes, they have a bigger salary cap but it wont be big enough to keep them all...and whilst that probably means trades and more draft picks replacing 23 year old 'guns' with 18 year old unproven kids has never, ever been a recipe for premierships.

[Twodogs]

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Yep. GWS is there to develop players for the proper clubs.

[Twodogs]

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Clicking thanks isn't enough, really great post. Please also thank your employer for freeing you up to do a heck of a lot of research.

I expect it to appear pretty much word for word in the paper soon claimed by some journalist as their work.

[Remi Moses]

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Double post

Great post soupaman

[Remi Moses]

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Clicking thanks isn't enough, really great post. Please also thank your employer for freeing you up to do a heck of a lot of research.

Outstanding work . I bet one of those lazy hack immensely untalented Afl writers picks this up

[LostDoggy]

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Not even Jarrad Grant could turn the place around, and that's saying something

I'd no idea things were that dire.

Just a quick analysis

Can you please run us up a detailed one? :P

[F'scary]

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The AFL's Operation Barbarossa.

What will the Stalingrad be?

[Twodogs]

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What will the Stalingrad be?

It's happening already. The zones and academies.

[Ozza]

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It's happening already. The zones and academies.

I am surprised at how low key the introduction of the development zones scheme has been and how little we've heard about it.

I'm not sure exactly how it works, but what I do know is that Luke Ball is co-ordinating it from the AFL's perspective, and that the Bulldogs have a part time resource in Dalrymple's team working on it.

[ledge]

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It's time zones came back . At least so people of the area can support people of the area and have some recognition of the club and its origins.
We go on about having the biggest area and supporter base but means nothing if the kid that people watched play go to GWS.
We need some sort of zone rule where you get first choice on two players in your area first.

[mjp]

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Yeah, but the western suburbs of Melbourne isn't going to be a zone...they are talking about regional areas particularly ones in non-footy areas. This is why there is so much controversy over the Giants as the Riverina could (and prob should) be considered a 'footy' area and they have full access to it.

[Drunken Bum]

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Yeah, but the western suburbs of Melbourne isn't going to be a zone...they are talking about regional areas particularly ones in non-footy areas.

My understanding was that we would have a fair chunk of the western suburbs as well as some regional zones and the academies are more for developing indigenous and recent arrivals to the country etc? I could be wrong but that was how i understood it.
Without knowing all the intricacies and cost etc i thought we were one of the better positioned clubs to take advantage of it

This is why there is so much controversy over the Giants as the Riverina could (and prob should) be considered a 'footy' area and they have full access to it.

There's really no could or should about it as far as i'm concerened, the Riverina is and always has been a footy area, it's an absolute disgrace that it is included in gws academy zone so about par for the course for the AFEL

[Twodogs]

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Yeah, but the western suburbs of Melbourne isn't going to be a zone...they are talking about regional areas particularly ones in non-footy areas. This is why there is so much controversy over the Giants as the Riverina could (and prob should) be considered a 'footy' area and they have full access to it.

My understanding was that we would have a fair chunk of the western suburbs as well as some regional zones and the academies are more for developing indigenous and recent arrivals to the country etc? I could be wrong but that was how i understood it.
Without knowing all the intricacies and cost etc i thought we were one of the better positioned clubs to take advantage of it



There's really no could or should about it as far as i'm concerened, the Riverina is and always has been a footy area, it's an absolute disgrace that it is included in gws academy zone so about par for the course for the AFEL

They had the suburban zones mapped out when they released the country zones. I can remember seeing it in the Herald Sun.