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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #31
    Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

    I like looking at www.liveladders.com for their statistical ranking.

    They have us 4th playing Hawthorn in the 1st QF. Win means prelim at MCG vs Adelaide/Geelong.

    Loss means SF vs GWS at MCG which we should win. Then facing Adelaide/Geelong in a prelim.

    I think Hawthorn get into the GF in any event. So the predicted run is 1. Hawthorn 2. GWS (if req) 3. Adelaide/Geelong 4. Hawthorn

    If we are fit and play to our best, then it's not insurmountable on the prediction supplied on this site.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18030

      #32
      Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

      Prelim vs either Adelaide or Geelong. Yippee.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • Remi Moses
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 14785

        #33
        Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

        Thankfully the players haven't lived through our pain of finals heartache .
        Interesting this year that finish top 4 and win first final you'll have played one game in 3 weeks .
        Not sure if that's beneficial

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27655

          #34
          Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

          Originally posted by Remi Moses
          Thankfully the players haven't lived through our pain of finals heartache .
          Interesting this year that finish top 4 and win first final you'll have played one game in 3 weeks .
          Not sure if that's beneficial
          It's not ideal. Silly idea by the AFL having a week off before the finals start.
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • Eastdog
            WOOF Communtiy Organiser
            • Feb 2012
            • 18290

            #35
            Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

            Originally posted by Remi Moses
            Thankfully the players haven't lived through our pain of finals heartache .
            Interesting this year that finish top 4 and win first final you'll have played one game in 3 weeks .
            Not sure if that's beneficial
            Yes my initial thinking is that it is good in that you aren't playing very week and you can rest up players who may be sore/injuried etc but if you think about it more you definitely want to keep playing and not stop especially if we have the momentum.

            If they are going to have the week break before the finals then really the Round 23 fixture should have been already locked in as it wouldn't make a difference now for final teams whatever days they played.
            "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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            • Murphy'sLore
              WOOF Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 2085

              #36
              Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

              Maybe I'm missing something but it seems illogical to prevent one team from resting players by forcing every team to rest players.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66720

                #37
                Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

                AFL never think when they change things.

                Round 23
                Rest
                Final - Win
                Rest
                Prelim
                GF
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #38
                  Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

                  The website above has updated. They have Hawthorn & Adelaide fighting for top spot, but they give it to Hawthorn. Then all on equal points but on percentage (2) Geelong (2% difference) (3) Adelaide (4) Bulldogs.

                  So I think T&T may want to root for Hawthorn for the rest of the year. Them at the MCG is a better option than Adelaide at AO.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 18030

                    #39
                    Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

                    Getting Hawks first week means we avoid them in a prelim.

                    Winning week 1 and getting an interstate team in a prelim would be ideal.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #40
                      Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

                      Originally posted by comrade
                      Getting Hawks first week means we avoid them in a prelim.

                      Winning week 1 and getting an interstate team in a prelim would be ideal.
                      As long as it's not Adelaide. Im not sure if I have the courage to front up to another cut throat final at the MCG against Adelaide...
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 18030

                        #41
                        Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        As long as it's not Adelaide. Im not sure if I have the courage to front up to another cut throat final at the MCG against Adelaide...
                        What better way to slay the dragon? Would be a suitable stepping stone to the ultimate fairy tale finishing.

                        Imagine the build up!
                        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #42
                          Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

                          This article gives a fairly thorough statistical analysis of the current state of play. Has us as a 15% chance of top 4 (38% chance before last game) and most probable finishing position of 6th.

                          The Kangaroos did almost enough to nail down eighth spot in round 18, but statistical projections show the differing fates that might await finals contenders

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66720

                            #43
                            Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

                            My new prediction

                            Hawks
                            Cats
                            Crows
                            GWS
                            Swans
                            Dogs
                            Wcoast
                            North
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • bulldogsthru&thru
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • May 2011
                              • 7697

                              #44
                              Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              My new prediction

                              Hawks
                              Cats
                              Crows
                              GWS
                              Swans
                              Dogs
                              Wcoast
                              North
                              My thinking is similar. The trouble is it looks like all of Cats, Crows, GWS and swans will be separated by % only!

                              Dogs v Eagles looking likely so it's vital for us to win 4 out of our 5 to ensure we play them in Melbourne. It's also possible with 3 wins but then we rely on the eagles losing their last 3 to GWS, Hawks and Crows.

                              8th will be taken by the winner of the saints and north this saturday night. Massive game

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #45
                                Re: Your Final 8 Prediction

                                R20:

                                Hawks def Melb (Hawks 64 pts)
                                Sydney def Port (Sydney 56 pts)
                                GWS def Suns (GWS 56 pts)
                                Dogs def North (Dogs 52 pts, North 48 pts)
                                Adelaide def Brisbane (Adelaide 56 pts)
                                Geelong def Essendon (Geelong 56 pts)
                                WCE def Freo (WCE 52 pts)

                                R21:

                                Dogs def Collingwood (Dogs 56 pts)
                                Hawks def North (Hawks 68 pts, North 48 pts)
                                Adelaide def Freo (Adelaide 60 pts)
                                Geelong def Richmond (Geelong 60 pts)
                                Sydney def St Kilda (Sydney 60 pts)
                                GWS def WCE (GWS 60 pts, WCE 52 pts)

                                R22:

                                WCE def Hawks (WCE 56 pts, Hawks 68 pts)
                                North lose to Sydney (North 48 pts, Sydney 64 pts)
                                GWS def Freo (GWS 64 points)
                                Power def Adelaide (Adelaide 60 pts)
                                Geelong def Brisbane (Geelong 64 pts)
                                Dogs def Essendon (Dogs 60 pts)

                                R23:

                                Geelong def Melbourne (Geelong 68 pts)
                                Freo def Dogs (Dogs 60 pts) (Pavlich factor)
                                Adelaide def WCE (Adelaide 64 points, WCE 56 pts)
                                North def GWS (North 52 pts, GWS 64 pts)
                                Sydney def Richmond (Sydney 68 points)
                                Hawks def Collingwood (Hawks 72 points)

                                For:

                                1. Hawks 72
                                2. Geelong 68
                                3. Sydney 68
                                4. GWS 64
                                5. Adelaide 64
                                6. Dogs 60
                                7. WCE 56
                                8. North 52

                                For Dogs vs West Coast Eagles at the MCG (not our home ground Etihad). WCE poor recent record at the MCG would be a good factor in our favour. With percentage not a factor if we level with a team (assuming North aren't equal with us) we just need to get one win ahead and stay one win ahead of WCE = win at least 3 of the 4 and WCE to go 2 & 2.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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