GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66738

    Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

    Originally posted by Topdog
    I keep mixing people up but I thought he just imported something in?
    That was a different bloke:

    AN AFL aspirant has been banned from all sport for 18 months for importing performance-enhancing drugs.
    VFL star Wade Lees yesterday said he would not abandon his AFL dream despite being slugged with the ban by AFL Victoria.
    Lees, 24, read his sanction in an email at Casey Scorpions training on Wednesday night - more than two years after he bought the fat-burning product online from the US.

    Lees was then charged with "attempted use of a prohibited substance violation" and banned by AFL Victoria after Round 7 this season.
    He hadn't even used the stuff
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    • boydogs
      WOOF Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 5844

      Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

      Originally posted by Topdog
      I keep mixing people up but I thought he just imported something in?
      Saad's ban was for a positive test due to an unmarked ingredient in a protein supplement
      If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

      Formerly gogriff

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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27655

        Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

        Wasn't it a supplement a friend made? He'd actually been warned not to take it but he did so he was doubly stupid is how I remember it. I tend to fantasise about things sometimes though.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • jeemak
          Bulldog Legend
          • Oct 2010
          • 21834

          Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

          Originally posted by Greystache
          The AFEL have ASADA over a barrel and both parties know it. It's a broken system when an organisation such as the AFEL, with its track record of highly questionable outcomes from investigations it conducts, chooses a panel to find guilt or innocence of it's own employees. A decision that stands as final unless the world anti-doping body chooses to escalate it to a neutral environment which is a long and incredibly expensive process.

          More often than not a home grown kangaroo court decision would be final, so ASADA is forced to take what they can get. Organisations like the AFL should have no involvement in the decision making process, but due to costs isn't likely to change.
          I wonder what the WADA and ASADA signatory compliance fees are. Probably low enough to not be a deterrent I suppose.
          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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          • boydogs
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 5844

            Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

            Originally posted by Twodogs
            Wasn't it a supplement a friend made? He'd actually been warned not to take it but he did so he was doubly stupid is how I remember it. I tend to fantasise about things sometimes though.
            Just checked, the ingredient was on there but he didn't check if it was banned. Sorry for the misinformation

            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

            Formerly gogriff

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              Wasn't it a supplement a friend made? He'd actually been warned not to take it but he did so he was doubly stupid is how I remember it. I tend to fantasise about things sometimes though.
              It was in the shake product of one of his personal sponsors. Claims he didn't read the fine print from memory.
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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27655

                Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                It was in the shake product of one of his personal sponsors. Claims he didn't read the fine print from memory.

                I remember now. At first the story was is he had been warned by the club or someone at the club that the drink contained a problematic ingredient when the club knew he was using it, warned him that it had an ingredient on the banned list but Saade said that this mentor or friend more or less overruled the club and said he should keep using it. Then the story changed 36 hours or so later.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • Greystache
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9775

                  Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                  Originally posted by Twodogs
                  I remember now. At first the story was is he had been warned by the club or someone at the club that the drink contained a problematic ingredient when the club knew he was using it, warned him that it had an ingredient on the banned list but Saade said that this mentor or friend more or less overruled the club and said he should keep using it. Then the story changed 36 hours or so later.
                  From memory it had an ingredient that was banned on match day but not during recovery. It was basically a stimulant ingredient. He was told he could drink it but not on match day, he kept doing it anyway, then got tested after a game and turned in a positive result.
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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27655

                    Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                    Originally posted by Greystache
                    From memory it had an ingredient that was banned on match day but not during recovery. It was basically a stimulant ingredient. He was told he could drink it but not on match day, he kept doing it anyway, then got tested after a game and turned in a positive result.
                    That's it! I thought I'd read somewhere that he had been warned about this particular ingredient and told that the "energy drink" he was using was one of the substances that was illegal on match day but went ahead and did it anyway.


                    Doubly stupid. Maybe triplely?
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27655

                      Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      From memory it had an ingredient that was banned on match day but not during recovery. It was basically a stimulant ingredient. He was told he could drink it but not on match day, he kept doing it anyway, then got tested after a game and turned in a positive result.
                      That's it! I thought I'd read somewhere that he had been warned about this particular ingredient and told that the "energy drink" he was using was one of the substances that was illegal on match day but went ahead and did it anyway.


                      Doubly stupid. Maybe triplely?
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • boydogs
                        WOOF Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 5844

                        Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                        Originally posted by Twodogs
                        Doubly stupid. Maybe triplely?
                        Originally posted by Twodogs
                        Doubly stupid. Maybe triplely?
                        Quadruply, maybe hexatruply
                        If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                        Formerly gogriff

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                        • Twodogs
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 27655

                          Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                          Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck.
                          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66738

                            Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                            ASADA confirms it will not pursue further action in Whitfield affair.

                            Full story here
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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13236

                              Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              ASADA confirms it will not pursue further action in Whitfield affair.

                              Full story here
                              Snippet from the article;

                              "I note the investigation revealed no use or intended use of performance-enhancing drugs. Given the circumstances, I do not believe pursuit of additional action under the AFL anti-doping rules is warranted."
                              Well you can't find that out if you can't catch him I suppose.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • Bulldog Joe
                                Premiership Moderator
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 5572

                                Re: GWS and Lachie Whitfield - Drugs Investigation

                                Originally posted by 1eyedog
                                Snippet from the article;



                                Well you can't find that out if you can't catch him I suppose.
                                Sets a nice precedent. I wonder how many players will be on an alleged bender when they should be available for testing.

                                NOTE to ALL Players

                                If you find that you have ingested any substance that may be on a banned list, inadvertently or other wise, please find alternative accommodation until it has cleared your body. It will also be of assistance if you do not officially inform your club as this will also avoid the possibility of others being found complicit.
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