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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    #16
    Re: Decision Review System

    I have perfect 20/20, irrespective of team, that's a goal or enough to stick with the goal umpire at worst. I simply don't see a 'howler' or conclusively wrong decision.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Missing Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8501

      #17
      Re: Decision Review System

      Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
      The reviewer was basically overruling a decision based on a possible margin of a few cm.
      Add to that there is really no point of reference to align the camera and the goal line. You can't directly imagine a straight line
      from the middle of the camera shot to the line on the ground because that is not accurate (camera positioning on the post, camera lens type, depth perception, distance etc). There is no hawkeye animation review like in the tennis or cricket where it shows the margin (or computed margin), so it is a naked eye guess based on an inaccurate image. With the small margin in question you simply can't overrule the decision.
      If the umpire had said I think it was touched can you prove otherwise then that is different.

      Anyway we won but had we not and that margin was a factor then crikey I would be fuming.
      Gerard Whately said exactly the same as you.

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      • ratsmac
        Coaching Staff
        • May 2009
        • 3974

        #18
        Re: Decision Review System

        I agree that the naked eye on the footage is just touched. But like you say with all the variables how can it be overruled. But again, in saying that if it were at the other end and we lost by a goal we would be calling for the naked eye version.
        They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
        Brian Fantana.

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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11735

          #19
          Re: Decision Review System

          Have they just completely thrown out the 'only over rule the umpire if there is clear evidence' part of this system this year?

          There've been so many both to our advantage and detriment that have been turned over on sketchy at best evidence.
          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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          • boydogs
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 5842

            #20
            Re: Decision Review System

            Happy with the no goal call but it was punched back into play. Should have been a ball up instead of a behind
            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

            Formerly gogriff

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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15125

              #21
              Re: Decision Review System

              Originally posted by boydogs
              Happy with the no goal call but it was punched back into play. Should have been a ball up instead of a behind
              I disagree with your first comment, but interesting take on the whole kick out V ball up.

              To me your logic appears sound.

              Wonder why it wasn't balled up?
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • ledge
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2007
                • 14029

                #22
                Re: Decision Review System

                Great spot either it was a goal or continue playing . Why a ball up ?
                Bring back the biff

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15125

                  #23
                  Re: Decision Review System

                  Originally posted by ledge
                  Great spot either it was a goal or continue playing . Why a ball up ?
                  How would you call play on in this situation?

                  "Upstairs" over ruled the goal as the ball was brought back to the centre square.
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14029

                    #24
                    Re: Decision Review System

                    I know what everyone's saying But in essence being touched and not fully going over the line , technically its play on.
                    So they actually got everything wrong !
                    1 it wasn't a goal because it didn't fully go over the line
                    2 it went back into play
                    3 the umpire called a goal it wasn't
                    4 therefore it wasn't a point as it didn't go fully over the line
                    5 it was by technicality play on
                    6 if not it should have been balled up in the square.
                    7 it went back for a kick out when it wasn't even a point.
                    The whole thing is a comedy of errors :-)
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • 1eyedog
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 13125

                      #25
                      Re: Decision Review System

                      What about holding the ball on Kennedy, he did a 720! Also what about too high on Wood by Parker which led to Kennedy's second?
                      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21426

                        #26
                        Re: Decision Review System

                        Originally posted by ledge
                        Great spot either it was a goal or continue playing . Why a ball up ?
                        The ball ended up going through the goals afterwards, hence a behind.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • boydogs
                          WOOF Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5842

                          #27
                          Re: Decision Review System

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          The ball ended up going through the goals afterwards, hence a behind.
                          What if it was called a goal, but instead of it being punched on the line it was marked by one of our players, but then spilled out when they hit the ground? Does the video reviewer then make the decision on whether that should be called a mark after overruling the goal? What if the player who marked the ball was obstructed from the camera by another player when they landed?

                          All the video reviewer should be doing is confirming or overruling the goal umpire's decision, not making judgements on subsequent play
                          If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                          Formerly gogriff

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                          • Danny the snakeman
                            WOOF Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 399

                            #28
                            Re: Decision Review System

                            I thought it was pretty funny when the camera went to libba in the stands and he was jumping up and down then it was given a point. Reminded me of him jumping up celebrating his goal/point in the prelim.

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