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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67319

    #46
    Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

    Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
    Hawks putting a lot of eggs into this omeara basket
    They have managed to offload a big contract and snare Mitchell and O'Meara and piss off Lewis who may also end up leaving.

    They have 7 players who will be over 30 next year and 7 who will hit 29 next year. List is shot.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13312

      #47
      Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

      Originally posted by bornadog
      They have managed to offload a big contract and snare Mitchell and O'Meara and piss off Lewis who may also end up leaving.

      They have 7 players who will be over 30 next year and 7 who will hit 29 next year. List is shot.
      They'll have so many gaps across their lines its not funny but they'll have O'Meara and Mitchell in the middle. Not enough as Geelong showed with Selwood and Dangerfield.
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 67319

        #48
        Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

        Originally posted by 1eyedog
        They'll have so many gaps across their lines its not funny but they'll have O'Meara and Mitchell in the middle. Not enough as Geelong showed with Selwood and Dangerfield.
        I hope we never see them in the 8 again.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13312

          #49
          Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

          Originally posted by bornadog
          I hope we never see them in the 8 again.
          If they lose Hartung as well they'll be worse. Hartung may be a best 20-22 player but he's quick and and will improve. Losing him and Hill means they lose a lot of pace and ripping the heart out of your midfield for next to nothing has to have a detrimental affect on their performances next year.
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9895

            #50
            Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

            Originally posted by bornadog
            They have managed to offload a big contract and snare Mitchell and O'Meara and piss off Lewis who may also end up leaving.

            They have 7 players who will be over 30 next year and 7 who will hit 29 next year. List is shot.
            List is shot but they're ding a good job of keeping refreshing it quickly. Draft well and they won't be down for long, if they do go down. Love them or hate them they know how to build a winning team.

            I do hope they fall flat on their face though

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            • hujsh
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2007
              • 11888

              #51
              Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Trade: Hawks get picks 10 and 68.

              Saints get 2017 first-round pick, and picks 23 and 36 this year.
              Could be a big win for the Saints if the Hawks do drop off. Could end up with pick 10-12 odd pretty easily next year
              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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              • Dancin' Douggy
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 2876

                #52
                Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

                Originally posted by bornadog
                I hope we never see them in the 8 again.
                never ever again would do nicely.

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18093

                  #53
                  Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

                  Can someone explain how the Hawks think they can on trade pick 10 to GC for Jaeger after trading next year's first.

                  I thought there were clear restrictions about trading first rounders 2 years in a row. If that's the case, will the AFEL approve the deal and Hawks will just have to manufacture a first rounder down the track somehow.

                  If so, seems to go against the spirit of the rule. Not that it would stop the AFEL or the Hawks.

                  I'm confused.
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #54
                    Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

                    Originally posted by comrade
                    Can someone explain how the Hawks think they can on trade pick 10 to GC for Jaeger after trading next year's first.

                    I thought there were clear restrictions about trading first rounders 2 years in a row. If that's the case, will the AFEL approve the deal and Hawks will just have to manufacture a first rounder down the track somehow.

                    If so, seems to go against the spirit of the rule. Not that it would stop the AFEL or the Hawks.

                    I'm confused.
                    It's 2 in 4 isn't it?
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 18093

                      #55
                      Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      It's 2 in 4 isn't it?
                      Yeah, might be.
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13312

                        #56
                        Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

                        I reckon the Hawks are knackered. Too old and the only bloke keeping their head above water is gone. They've lost run and bring in a pretty good though one paced footballer. And then there's Vickery just to seal their fate. Think the writing is on the wall and the Saints will cash in next draft.
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13312

                          #57
                          Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

                          Beyond Tom Mitchell they have no midfield depth and who knows what Jaeger will throw up.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • comrade
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 18093

                            #58
                            Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

                            Originally posted by 1eyedog
                            I reckon the Hawks are knackered. Too old and the only bloke keeping their head above water is gone. They've lost run and bring in a pretty good though one paced footballer. And then there's Vickery just to seal their fate. Think the writing is on the wall and the Saints will cash in next draft.
                            Don't know why they're not prepared to take a whack for a year or two and regenerate. Swans showed it can be done (albeit with academy help), we took 3-4 years to go from basket case to finalists to premiers.

                            From the outside, it looks like they've completely de-stabilised the playing group by bringing in big money recruits into a team that has prided itself on taking cuts to stay together.
                            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                            • 1eyedog
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 13312

                              #59
                              Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

                              I think they've become arrogant and I also think while he has credits in the bank Clarko has too much say in list management.

                              Will be interesting to sit back and see how it goes but the formula they're employing has failed elsewhere.
                              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                              • Topdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7471

                                #60
                                Re: All Confirmed Trades/Moves 2016

                                I believe a club can trade what they want away but after the 2 in 4 breach they will have restrictions

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