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Re: Champion Data: Collingwood’s midfield ranked the best in the AFL for 2017, Demons the worst
Based on their criteria it seems spot on. Pies have no depth in that department though while we rotate about 14 players through there.Comment
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Re: Champion Data: Collingwood’s midfield ranked the best in the AFL for 2017, Demons the worst
Please keep undervaluing our players, please, when it comes to the crunch, stack the odds against us. As suggested the data is flawed (Libba and Picken win matches yet put in the Greenwood and Crisp bracket) but completely accurate. Collingwood's midfield is the most highly rated by champion data. They also will be up against it to even make finals.
"The Dogs’ overall rating is lowered by the ratings given to youngsters Lukas Webb, Bailey Dale and Mitch Honeychurch, who are all factored into the midfield brigade, after playing more than the required 10 games."
Our future stars are keeping us down...Comment
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Re: Champion Data: Collingwood’s midfield ranked the best in the AFL for 2017, Demons the worst
Absolutely love it. Keep undermining and underrating us. It worked so well this year! And it's happening again (not so much from the media) with plenty of people thinking we will be a one and done team. The thinking being we had a perfect 4 weeks but won't be able to reproduce it again. It's just gold.Comment
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Re: Champion Data: Collingwood’s midfield ranked the best in the AFL for 2017, Demons the worst
Tbf the more players you list as being "elite" the less it means. For every above average player there needs to be a below average one, and for every elite player there needs to be 9 non-elite players.I should leave it alone but you're not rightComment
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Re: Champion Data: Collingwood’s midfield ranked the best in the AFL for 2017, Demons the worst
Champion Data explains why Collingwood’s midfield is the best in the AFL going into season 2017
EYEBROWS were raised over the weekend when Champion Data rated Collingwood as the competition’s best midfield going into season 2017.
But the AFL’s official stats gurus have defended their numbers, reiterating that the Magpies midfield group is among the deepest and most talented in the AFL.
Despite a 12th-placed finish last season, their third straight campaign without finals, Nathan Buckley’s side led the league for midfield player ratings.
The statistics, which are based over a two-year period, take into account all midfield players that have featured in more than 10 games in that time, with a 75 per cent weighting to last season.
And while Collingwood’s spot at the top of the tree might be a surprise to some, key additions over the last couple of years has seen their midfield become one of the most revered in the AFL.
“If you have a look at Collingwood’s midfield, it’s all quality in there,” Champion Data’s Daniel Hoyne told SEN Radio.
“Scott Pendlebury and Adam Treloar are the stars and both rate elite. Then you’ve got Steele Sidebottom, Daniel Wells and Taylor Adams, who all rate above average.
“They actually only have one midfielder rated in the bottom 35 per cent (in the competition), which is quite rare. That’s why they rank number one at the moment.”
Collingwood is followed by Greater Western Sydney and the Western Bulldogs in terms of the competition’s strongest midfield groups.
Yet the gap between the three is slim and, given the age profile of both the Giants and the Bulldogs midfield, Hoyne expects that gap to close by season’s end.
“It has to be said, the gap between Collingwood, GWS and the Bulldogs as the top three is very marginal — there’s hardly anything in it,” Hoyne said.
“If you’re talking depth, I don’t think there’s a midfield in the competition that runs deeper than what the Bulldogs do.
“The only thing that separates them from Collingwood and GWS is that they have those blokes who haven’t played too much footy. They’ve played 10 games, but their rating isn’t too high.”
Sydney’s midfield has long been considered among the best in the AFL, but the loss of Tom Mitchell to Hawthorn during the off-season means the depth isn’t quite there anymore.
“Sydney has the fifth best midfield in the competition,” Hoyne said.
“Luke Parker, Josh Kennedy and Dan Hannebery are the stars of that midfield. Kieren Jack, over the last two years, is now rated average.
“Aside from that, it really does fall away for the Swans. They do have a few players who rated in that below average and poor category, which is the reason why their ranking isn’t in the top three.”It always seems impossible until it's done. Nelson MandelaComment
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Re: Champion Data: Collingwood’s midfield ranked the best in the AFL for 2017, Demons the worst
Oh yeah, about that. During a triumphal parade through Yarraville the cup got slightly damaged during a dispute over who's turn it was on the pinball machine during a rest period in the front bar of the Railway hotel. Les says it'll be a few days before he can get onto fixing the cup because he's got a big job on at the moment getting the gearbox out of a Land Rover and with Davo in hospital after the pinball incident with the premiership cup it's taking longer than he thought. So if you could give us a week or so that'd be sweet.They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.Comment
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Re: Champion Data: Collingwood’s midfield ranked the best in the AFL for 2017, Demons the worst
Does anyone actually disagree with it after reading the explanation? We have all year praised our multi positional players. In terms of stats that will hurt a ranking. In terms of actually playing, it helps immensly. I have no issues with the ratings given and they even mention that the Bulldogs are the deepest.Comment
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Re: Champion Data: Collingwood’s midfield ranked the best in the AFL for 2017, Demons the worst
But the parameters are clearly stated.
I'd like to see the numbers married with team productivity from defined midfield activities to get a better sense of which midfield team is better.TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.Comment
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Re: Champion Data: Collingwood’s midfield ranked the best in the AFL for 2017, Demons the worst
Close thread, we are Premiers so who gives two hoots.It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.Comment
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