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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27664

    Re: 2017 AFL Finals

    Originally posted by jeemak
    If you tackle around the waist and the person you're tackling contorts their body making your tackle slip to below the knees resulting in a trip, should it be holding the ball?

    Footballers have been bending their knees manoeuvring in traffic forever, do they all have to run around as upright as they possibly can now, so as to ensure a tackle doesn't slip over the shoulders?

    It's a bonkers rule change. If you're going to try and pin the arms by tackling well above the elbow then you risk tackling high, and so be it.
    Originally posted by bornadog
    I agree, once more a knee jerk reaction without thinking of the consequences of changing a rule.
    Let's just ban tackling and give them tackle belts. At least it would be adjudicated correctly.

    Originally posted by Topdog
    Improved on last year
    That's because we weren't there to take them out. The others ganged up on us to keep us out of the finals because they were scared of us.

    Originally posted by jeemak
    Bingo. So if you want to lay the perfect tackle and lock the ball in, you risk giving away a free kick for too high should it slip up above the shoulders. If you want to negate the player but lower the risk of giving away a free kick, you aim lower.

    A player lowering their centre of gravity or raising arms when tackled isn't instigating high contact - it's the tackler who's doing that. Lowering your centre of gravity enables you to dispose of the ball more effectively, it also gives you options of going low or high with the handpass in congestion.

    Why the AFL gave into the hysteria is beyond me. Now all we have is more hysteria.

    The tackler who tackles high wants to do everything (impair disposal and tackle) at the same time but that was never the idea. Is it a little more difficult learning how to pin a tackle around the waste properly too do you think?
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27664

      Re: 2017 AFL Finals

      Originally posted by Ozza
      Because if the arms are free, you aren't stopping the player from moving the ball on to their team mate via handball.
      There are plenty of situations where players would rather risk giving away a free, than letting the handball get out.
      In the old days the motion of being swung around was usually sufficient to knock the ball free and get dropping the ball but now players are better at hanging on to it.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • ledge
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2007
        • 14472

        Re: 2017 AFL Finals

        Players are Told to encourage the tackle so it leaves a player over the top to handball to. Thus creating the higher tackle to counter the arms being free.
        I believe Geelong started that idea like the Hawks created the Shepherd the man on the mark so the player with the free kick could run past.
        It's called evolution and countering opposition tactics.
        Bring back the biff

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        • Ozza
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Mar 2008
          • 6402

          Re: 2017 AFL Finals

          One thing I hate, is this notion of "Oh you've gotta reward the tackler".

          I'd prefer the 'benefit of the doubt' going to the bloke who is making the play, rather than often rewarding the player who has been second to the ball.

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          • Eastdog
            WOOF Communtiy Organiser
            • Feb 2012
            • 18321

            Re: 2017 AFL Finals

            AFL 2017 Week 2 Semi Finals


            Friday September 15 at the MCG (7:50pm)

            Second Semi Final: Geelong Cats v Sydney Swans



            Saturday September 16 at Spotless Stadium (7:25pm)

            First Semi Final: GWS Giants v West Coast
            "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21991

              Re: 2017 AFL Finals

              Originally posted by Ozza
              One thing I hate, is this notion of "Oh you've gotta reward the tackler".

              I'd prefer the 'benefit of the doubt' going to the bloke who is making the play, rather than often rewarding the player who has been second to the ball.
              Agree 100%.
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67297

                Re: 2017 AFL Finals

                Very wet here in East Melbourne, have had lightning and thunder and pelting rain. Could make a difference.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • kruder
                  Coaching Staff
                  • May 2011
                  • 3905

                  Re: 2017 AFL Finals

                  Ahh bummer Ling and Carey are back, have ruined Friday night footy for me this year.

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                  • Rocket Science
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4866

                    Re: 2017 AFL Finals

                    Straight Sets Cats.

                    Make it happen Bloods.
                    BORDERLINE FLYING

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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7471

                      Re: 2017 AFL Finals

                      Ling commentating Dangerfield getting soft frees. Is there anything worse?

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        Re: 2017 AFL Finals

                        I'd love to have a player that gets frees like Dangerfield gets. They're made up, the last I think was for diving near a contest.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Rocket Science
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 4866

                          Re: 2017 AFL Finals

                          Was under the impression the best umpires made the cut for finals.

                          You wouldn't know it. They're having a mare.

                          Stay the fhark out of the contest where your input isn't warranted.
                          BORDERLINE FLYING

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                          • kruder
                            Coaching Staff
                            • May 2011
                            • 3905

                            Re: 2017 AFL Finals

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            I'd love to have a player that gets frees like Dangerfield gets. They're made up, the last I think was for diving near a contest.
                            Tom Boyd would love a few. Has he got one yet?

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                            • kruder
                              Coaching Staff
                              • May 2011
                              • 3905

                              Re: 2017 AFL Finals

                              Originally posted by Rocket Science
                              Was under the impression the best umpires made the cut for finals.

                              You wouldn't know it. They're having a mare.

                              Stay the fhark out of the contest where your input isn't warranted.
                              The dangerous tackle was embarrassing, this finals series is certainly missing something.

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                Re: 2017 AFL Finals

                                Originally posted by kruder
                                Tom Boyd would love a few. Has he got one yet?
                                Not a single one. Needs to be a media darling and not over paid kid....



                                ... That was the difference in us winning a premiership for the first time in 62 years. Seems that doesn't get media, and in turn umpire cred.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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