New rules likely to be trialled this season

[Rocket Science]

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"The core issue is the integrity of the game, according to McLachlan" ...

Delivered with the conviction of a mob who floated an idea to test the winds and would be proclaiming pressing ahead with trials with the same conviction had the footy public not howled the ham-fisted concept down.

He'd make a great mainstream party politician.

[Sedat]

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Gil should be in the circus with backflips like these!

Rule change trials 'unlikely' this season: CEO

THE AFL is unlikely to trial rule changes in games this season following intense public backlash and questions about the integrity of the game, CEO Gillon McLachlan says.

On Wednesday, the League boss floated the possibility of introducing major rule changes for up to three games for premiership points in the final five rounds of the season.

However, after McLachlan made those comments on radio station SEN, the reaction from those in the game and from the general public has largely been negative.

Asked whether in-game trials were a feasible thing for this season, McLachlan said it was looking more doubtful by the day.

"I think it's unlikely," McLachlan told 3AW on Friday morning.

"The way it's running is that two-thirds of people think it's a bad idea and a one-third think it's good, that's my assessment after a couple of days."

The core issue is the integrity of the game, according to McLachlan, with prominent AFL greats Leigh Matthews, Matthew Lloyd and Cameron Ling expressing their strong opposition to the idea.

"Clearly some questioned whether it was an integrity issue and that's what I think the majority think, so I don't think you can do it," McLachlan said.

McLachlan hinted that his personal view was that in-game trials this season should be explored further, but was happy to accept the prevailing consensus from knowledgeable people in the game.

Possible rule changes include introducing starting positions, a bigger goal square and reducing interchange rotations.

The AFL Commission must sign off any proposed rule changes made by Steve Hocking and the competition committee should they be raised.

The competition committee met on Wednesday, where the state of the game was discussed in detail.

This pin-head proves time and time again that he is completely out of his depth running a supposedly professional and sophisticated multi-billion dollar business. More light-weight than a dandelion spore.

Get rid of him, and as an added bonus his dickhead brother Hamish will get the arse not being able to hide behind his powerful brother. One day the useless prick might even pay back all those creditors that lost millions from the AFL Hall of Fame and Sensation - https://tvtonight.com.au/2008/03/sev...ooty-show.html

[Twodogs]

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This pin-head proves time and time again that he is completely out of his depth running a supposedly professional and sophisticated multi-billion dollar business. More light-weight than a dandelion spore.

Get rid of him, and as an added bonus his dickhead brother Hamish will get the arse not being able to hide behind his powerful brother. One day the useless prick might even pay back all those creditors that lost millions from the AFL Hall of Fame and Sensation - https://tvtonight.com.au/2008/03/sev...ooty-show.html

The Daddo brothers were similiar talentless hacks but nobody had the bright idea of putting Cameron in charge of the AFL.

[EasternWest]

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The Daddo brothers were similiar talentless hacks.

You take that back right now.

[mjp]

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This is such a polarising argument, everyone thinks their version of how to fix the game is right.

I'm not sure about this. I think it is more about 2x camps where the guiding sentiment for each is:

Group 1: Stop changing the rules. You guys caused all this by changing the rules. Stop changing the rules.
Group 2: The game is unrecognisable. The coaches value 'not losing' more than they value winning. Please dear god do SOMETHING to try and create some one-vs-one contests and positional play.

I actually have no idea what will 'FIX IT' but am firmly in camp 2...if nothing changes and we are sooking about congestion half-way through next year, then we have only ourselves to blame. The rules have evolved over the years - out on the full was never a thing, there was no centre square etc etc etc...some of the changes have been positive and others not so much - and opinions vary on which ones fall into which camp.

Maybe I have enough footy to watch with coaching and all, but I have to tell you I was once a 'watch every game' person and my tv was playing a game of some sort 24x7. Now? I watch the 'Dogs (no wonder I am unhappy with the state of the game) and I like watching the Giants 'cos they run...but aside from that...

[Bornadog]

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Maybe I have enough footy to watch with coaching and all, but I have to tell you I was once a 'watch every game' person and my tv was playing a game of some sort 24x7. Now? I watch the 'Dogs (no wonder I am unhappy with the state of the game) and I like watching the Giants 'cos they run...but aside from that...

Richmond are pretty good to watch

[Bornadog]

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I'm not sure about this. I think it is more about 2x camps where the guiding sentiment for each is:

Group 1: Stop changing the rules. You guys caused all this by changing the rules. Stop changing the rules.
Group 2: The game is unrecognisable. The coaches value 'not losing' more than they value winning. Please dear god do SOMETHING to try and create some one-vs-one contests and positional play.

I am an advocate of don't change the rules, for one reason only, I don't trust the AFL will get it right.

I can't think of one rule in the last 15 years that I can say has improved the game, I think it has gone the other way, and I am starting to think the interchange restrictions is when the game started going backwards. I need to look up some old games and think about it more, but all I know is when the players were running hard and fast and resting, the game was extremely fast. Have a look at some of our games from the Rocket years, and the ball movement as an example.

The business of making players fatigue so they can't get to a stoppage is absolute rubbish - do I want to see a Bont so tired he can't play, I want to see him at his best.

Whatever we do, will not stop the current tactics of the forward press and all out being defensive. When you have 36 players on the ground, prepare for congestion, unless you force zones, and it would need to be drastic, as even 26 players in the FWD 50 is too many.

Anyway some thoughts without proof.

[jeemak]

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I'm not sure about this. I think it is more about 2x camps where the guiding sentiment for each is:

Group 1: Stop changing the rules. You guys caused all this by changing the rules. Stop changing the rules.
Group 2: The game is unrecognisable. The coaches value 'not losing' more than they value winning. Please dear god do SOMETHING to try and create some one-vs-one contests and positional play.

I actually have no idea what will 'FIX IT' but am firmly in camp 2...if nothing changes and we are sooking about congestion half-way through next year, then we have only ourselves to blame. The rules have evolved over the years - out on the full was never a thing, there was no centre square etc etc etc...some of the changes have been positive and others not so much - and opinions vary on which ones fall into which camp.

Maybe I have enough footy to watch with coaching and all, but I have to tell you I was once a 'watch every game' person and my tv was playing a game of some sort 24x7. Now? I watch the 'Dogs (no wonder I am unhappy with the state of the game) and I like watching the Giants 'cos they run...but aside from that...

How many polar opposites can you have? You don't have to answer, I think we actually agree broadly speaking. However, each camp tends to fight more furiously with itself (a bit like political parties, it gets ugly) than it does with the other.

I'm with you with respect to being in the second camp. What can we do to incentivise the coaches to value winning and winning well over not losing and not losing by much?

[Twodogs]

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You take that back right now.

No! I won't. I will concede they are more talented than the Maclachlans. And that Cam probably would have done a better job of running the AFL than Gil currently is.

I beat Lochie at pool at Chasers one night.

I'm not sure about this. I think it is more about 2x camps where the guiding sentiment for each is:

Group 1: Stop changing the rules. You guys caused all this by changing the rules. Stop changing the rules.
Group 2: The game is unrecognisable. The coaches value 'not losing' more than they value winning. Please dear god do SOMETHING to try and create some one-vs-one contests and positional play.

I actually have no idea what will 'FIX IT' but am firmly in camp 2...if nothing changes and we are sooking about congestion half-way through next year, then we have only ourselves to blame. The rules have evolved over the years - out on the full was never a thing, there was no centre square etc etc etc...some of the changes have been positive and others not so much - and opinions vary on which ones fall into which camp.

Maybe I have enough footy to watch with coaching and all, but I have to tell you I was once a 'watch every game' person and my tv was playing a game of some sort 24x7. Now? I watch the 'Dogs (no wonder I am unhappy with the state of the game) and I like watching the Giants 'cos they run...but aside from that...

I can remember telling you one Monday when we were playing that I was planning on watching Four Corners that night and you looked at me as if I was deranged. "But what about Monday Night Football?" you asked. I had forgotten about the footy being on and ended up watching it.

[bulldogtragic]

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Since when did the AFEL stop doing focus groups to test opinions on proposed changes? If they had just stopped them a little sooner we wouldn't have GWS.

[Sedat]

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I'm not sure about this. I think it is more about 2x camps where the guiding sentiment for each is:

Group 1: Stop changing the rules. You guys caused all this by changing the rules. Stop changing the rules.
Group 2: The game is unrecognisable. The coaches value 'not losing' more than they value winning. Please dear god do SOMETHING to try and create some one-vs-one contests and positional play.

There's a 3rd camp who is a close cousin to the 2nd group - game is unrecognisable but there are existing rules that need to be used/tightened to have the desired effect to the game that group 2 want.

[mjp]

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Richmond are pretty good to watch

Nah - don't like them. It is the sort of footy that a club supporter would love but as a neutral it isn't very inspiring...what it does do is make me wonder why we don't play like that (any more).

Lot's of crappy i50 entries to a group of small-medium forwards who do it with effort rather than skill...they are admirable but that wears off after 5 minutes when you realise you are admiring Richmond.

[Eastdog]

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Farcical to trial during the season proper.

Yep agree. They should leave for the pre season games.

[Bornadog]

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Nah - don't like them. It is the sort of footy that a club supporter would love but as a neutral it isn't very inspiring...what it does do is make me wonder why we don't play like that (any more).

Lot's of crappy i50 entries to a group of small-medium forwards who do it with effort rather than skill...they are admirable but that wears off after 5 minutes when you realise you are admiring Richmond.

I don't watch many other teams, I never have. I may flick the remote to a game and if its the last quarter and a close game, i will most likely watch. Right now I am watching the Tour and have been most nights.

[Sedat]

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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dennis-cometti-footy-needs-to-go-back-to-the-future-to-survive/news-story/3dddc1e62987bb2573de39a49c14ac34

Dennis Cometti's take on the current rule change debate - don't mind some of his suggestions at all