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  • ratsmac
    Coaching Staff
    • May 2009
    • 3975

    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    If the $900,000 was in the cap, I would absolutely agree with you. If we offered him the Martin contract, 5 X $700,000 in the cap and then outside of the cap roughly an equal share of the ASA allowance, about $200,000, I could live with that. But he would need to actually earn the extra by being our indigenous ambassador and all that it entails, marketing, indigenous engagement across the Western Suburbs and western Victoria and being the face of, and active Ambasador of, our NGA program.

    In that perspective, the money is what we offered Jack Martin and an extra figure outside the cap up to $200,000 for real services rendered to help us build an indigenous program and pathway into the club. Hill is a gun and exactly the type we needs and I rate over Martin. So there's a hypothetical argument for it. But it's all completely hypothetical.
    We have 10 days of hypothetical bullshit in the media anyways so I would rather read yours BT. Keep them coming!
    They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
    Brian Fantana.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66301

      Re: Proactive Poaching

      When we did the Schache deal, it was done in the last 20 minutes. I hope we can do the deals this year a lot earlier.
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44411

        Re: Proactive Poaching

        Originally posted by bornadog
        When we did the Schache deal, it was done in the last 20 minutes. I hope we can do the deals this year a lot earlier.
        Same here but I wouldn't count on it
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • DOG GOD
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jul 2007
          • 6431

          Re: Proactive Poaching

          This is why it should be mon-Friday......it’s a circus the way it is, and how much has been completed since Monday? Pretty much bugger all.
          I will never see #16 the same!!

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Proactive Poaching

            Originally posted by DOG GOD
            This is why it should be mon-Friday......it’s a circus the way it is, and how much has been completed since Monday? Pretty much bugger all.
            Yep. But we need another trade period right before the season... For more of this...
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • KT31
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jul 2008
              • 5454

              Re: Proactive Poaching

              Does the trade period close down over the weekend or do the still all meet up ?
              I know managers and recruiters will meet up, but wondering if you are able to lodge a trade over the weekend.
              It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11852

                Re: Proactive Poaching

                Originally posted by KT31
                Does the trade period close down over the weekend or do the still all meet up ?
                I know managers and recruiters will meet up, but wondering if you are able to lodge a trade over the weekend.
                I don't believe you can officially lodge one over the weekend
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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14883

                  Re: Proactive Poaching

                  Originally posted by KT31
                  Does the trade period close down over the weekend or do the still all meet up ?
                  I know managers and recruiters will meet up, but wondering if you are able to lodge a trade over the weekend.
                  Their ears are bleeding by the time the weekend is over, a lot of haggling.
                  Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13207

                    Re: Proactive Poaching

                    Haha I reckon most of next weeks trades will be agreed upon over the weekend.
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • The Doctor
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 3702

                      Re: Proactive Poaching

                      Western Bulldogs have already made inquiries about the potential availability of Gold Coast young gun Ben King as they join a long list of Victorian clubs hoping to lure him home to Victoria.

                      Sam Landsberger, Herald Sun
                      October 11, 2019 6:55pm

                      Western Bulldogs want Ben King with the Gold Coast young gun already high on the club’s list of targets for next year’s trade period.
                      St Kilda football boss Simon Lethlean put King’s future on the agenda this week when he declared the Saints wanted to reunite the 202cm swingman with his twin brother, Max, at Moorabbin.
                      “Ben is playing at Gold Coast next year, and if he doesn’t sign and looks to move next year we’ll talk to him,” Lethlean said.

                      But the Herald Sun can reveal that the Dogs’ interest goes back several months and is well-known to the King camp.
                      Suns list manager Craig Cameron on Friday confirmed he had tabled a contract extension to King, which remained unsigned.
                      But Cameron said he was “confident” King would recommit and sources close to the Haileybury product agreed that he was a good chance to stay put.

                      However, should King decide to join the Suns exodus then it is no fait accompli that he would choose the Saints.
                      King’s versatility — he has starred at both ends of the ground in junior football — is well-suited to coach Luke Beveridge and the Dogs are armed with plenty of salary cap space.

                      While it would be a romantic football story for the King brothers to play together, some have privately questioned whether that would be the best fit for the boys. Max is likely to make his AFL debut in Round 1 next season as a full-forward and if Ben also wants to make his name as a goalkicker there mightn’t be room in the same attack.

                      Ben’s Rising Star nomination came after he drilled four goals against Essendon late in the season, while he kicked multiple goals in four other games.

                      King toured Whitten Oval just days before last November’s draft and told the Herald Sun he wanted to become a Bulldog so he could stay at home.

                      “I’d prefer to stay with my family in Melbourne and get to the Western Bulldogs (pick 7), but I’m really just keen to play some AFL footy and wherever I fall, that’s life,” he said.

                      While the Dogs were thrilled to get ready-made midfielder Bailey Smith at No.7, they had King slightly ahead on their talent board.
                      Smith is proving to be a fine pick — he played all 23 games and finished fourth in the Rising Star — but if Gold Coast didn’t pounce at No.6, King would’ve been a Bulldog.

                      The Dogs suspect they are one of several Victorian clubs to flag their interest in King, while their list build should be firmly on track by Wednesday night’s trade deadline.

                      The club did not budget for the departures of Tom Boyd (retired) and Marcus Adams (Brisbane Lions) although they are set to fill those holes with Josh Bruce (St Kilda) and Alex Keath (Adelaide).

                      The Dogs envisage Bruce playing as the deepest forward next season with Aaron Naughton at centre half-forward and Josh Schache pushing up to the wings.
                      Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34316

                        Re: Proactive Poaching

                        I called King’s name first near the start of my early list management thread before the heat got turned up on him. For the reasons above. But... I have no idea how we’d get that done. None whatsoever. Outside of handing over a good player.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • lemmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6508

                          Re: Proactive Poaching

                          Very interesting that we had him slightly ahead of Bailey. It seemed like they were a toss of the coin leading into the draft.

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                          • FrediKanoute
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 3815

                            Re: Proactive Poaching

                            Would we trade Ugle-Jamarra for King?

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18932

                              Re: Proactive Poaching

                              Any chance we could pull a Boyd and get him after one year?
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • Happy Days
                                Hall of Fame
                                • May 2008
                                • 10109

                                Re: Proactive Poaching

                                Hell yeah. He looked electric at times for the GC.
                                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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