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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18933

    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Originally posted by 1eyedog
    So who else are you going to put up? I can't see us palming Mitch off when we just signed him up. We just wouldn't do it and I don't think we should. If you're talking players who would you send up there to appease them in a player swap involving Martin? Victorian boy and Premiership player McLean? Assuming Williams is going home...

    I think we can pretty much say that Dicko, Suckers, Dale and R Smith have close to zero collateral as well so it has to be someone good.
    It's a very good question. Wallis appears to be not in our current plans, so I guess it's hard to look past him. He has the protection of a contract so it would be his call I guess. I can't see him wanting to play his prime years at Footscray.

    Edit : I now realise Mitch is injured (thanks for the heads up!), so basically forget everything I just said
    Last edited by Grantysghost; 09-08-2019, 04:18 PM.
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66317

      Re: Proactive Poaching

      Originally posted by Grantysghost
      Wallis appears to be not in our current plans,
      What makes you say that?
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      • Axe Man
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 11069

        Re: Proactive Poaching

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        It's a very good question. Wallis appears to be not in our current plans, so I guess it's hard to look past him. He has the protection of a contract so it would be his call I guess. I can't see him wanting to play his prime years at Footscray.
        He played 10 games straight until he was injured. Only played in the VFL when he resumed and was obviously not ready for AFL.

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18933

          Re: Proactive Poaching

          Originally posted by bornadog
          What makes you say that?
          My bad bad, I hadn't realised he was injured with an ankle.Thought he was in the VFL I should follow it more closely, it's his brother. Maybe he is in our plans

          My point is really around the Suns and them getting players in return for Martin, instead of picks. Of course they could turn that pick into a player in a three way deal, that would be better for them I feel.
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          • Bulldog Joe
            Premiership Moderator
            • Jul 2009
            • 5520

            Re: Proactive Poaching

            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            It's a very good question. Wallis appears to be not in our current plans, so I guess it's hard to look past him. He has the protection of a contract so it would be his call I guess. I can't see him wanting to play his prime years at Footscray.
            Wallis has only been out of the side due to injury. Even when he played a couple in the VFL it was to see if he could play through the problem he had.

            There has been nothing to suggest he is out of favour.

            Edit.
            Didn't see Axe Man's post until after I posted.
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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18933

              Re: Proactive Poaching

              Originally posted by Axe Man
              He played 10 games straight until he was injured. Only played in the VFL when he resumed and was obviously not ready for AFL.
              Yeah just had a look he played the two games in the VFL rd 14 v Tigers, and rd 15 v Casey and performed pretty well in both but as you say ankle didn't come up. I wrongly thought he was still playing VFL.
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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 11069

                Re: Proactive Poaching

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                Of course they could turn that pick into a player in a three way deal, that would be better for them I feel.
                I think this is more likely since we don't really have many players with currency that we would be willing to deal. Perhaps Williams if he isn't set on going back to Adelaide. Maybe Lynch?

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18933

                  Re: Proactive Poaching

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  I think this is more likely since we don't really have many players with currency that we would be willing to deal. Perhaps Williams if he isn't set on going back to Adelaide. Maybe Lynch?
                  I had a good look through the list myself and it is a very tough exercise I don't envy Sam Power and his team. They can have Jerka Jenkins. Martin to Dogs, Pick 10 to Crows, Gibbs and Jenkins to GCS.
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                  • The Adelaide Connection
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 2751

                    Re: Proactive Poaching

                    Originally posted by Grantysghost
                    I had a good look through the list myself and it is a very tough exercise I don't envy Sam Power and his team. They can have Jerka Jenkins. Martin to Dogs, Pick 10 to Crows, Gibbs and Jenkins to GCS.
                    Oh hell no. I would rather give GC pick 10 outright than see the Crows profit pick 10 for two players they want to delist and salary dump.

                    BUT if we were to give GC 10 for Martin I would want at least a third rounder coming back.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27654

                      Re: Proactive Poaching

                      Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                      Oh hell no. I would rather give GC pick 10 outright than see the Crows profit pick 10 for two players they want to delist and salary dump.

                      BUT if we were to give GC 10 for Martin I would want at least a third rounder coming back.

                      I was quite happy to see Adelaide piss away draft picks on Gibbs and I'd hate to see them protected from their own stupidity.
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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44424

                        Re: Proactive Poaching

                        Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
                        Oh hell no. I would rather give GC pick 10 outright than see the Crows profit pick 10 for two players they want to delist and salary dump.

                        BUT if we were to give GC 10 for Martin I would want at least a third rounder coming back.
                        A straight up swap is a fair outcome for mine and at the moment I think GC has a lateish 3rd round pick (49). If we would swing that from them then it would be a terrific outcome as we would have 4 x 3rd round picks and that would create many options for us

                        They do have a 2nd first round pick which might come into play in some way
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                        • Remi Moses
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 14785

                          Re: Proactive Poaching

                          Jack Martin’s going to have to improve some of his lacklustre efforts
                          Especially last week

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                          • Rocket Science
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 4851

                            Re: Proactive Poaching

                            Don't knock the lad he's conveniently driving his price down.
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                            • Testekill
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 2327

                              Re: Proactive Poaching

                              Originally posted by 1eyedog
                              Is he really worth pick 8-10?
                              He is not, I'd say he's worth a pick from 18-23 but we can't do that. I guess trying to turn our first into the 2nd rounder and Martin might not be too bad.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44424

                                Re: Proactive Poaching

                                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                                Jack Martin’s going to have to improve some of his lacklustre efforts
                                Especially last week
                                As Rocket Science mentioned, it could be a bonus for us.
                                Martin may have checked out now which isn't a good sign but I'd imagine he is still very much in our sights
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