Proactive Poaching

[Bornadog]

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So the Suns have dropped Jack Martin ... fancy that.

He had one game back from injury, very strange.

[GVGjr]

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Are you altogether certain he's been dropped for 'form' reasons though?

I'd muse it's been made clear to them he's goneski so they've done about the only thing they can do; drop him.

Watch him go to bloody Hawthorn.

He had a poor game last week and perhaps combined with thought he might be heading south the Gold Coast MC decided to drop him along with Peter Wright

[The Doctor]

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Article in the Age linking us to Jack Martin

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/decision-looms-for-gold-coast-s-jack-martin-20190808-p52fbf.html

[Bornadog]

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Article in the Age linking us to Jack Martin

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...08-p52fbf.html

What would he be worth as far as draft picks are concerned?

[chef]

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What would he be worth as far as draft picks are concerned?

Our first pick. I'd do it too.

[1eyedog]

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Is he really worth pick 8-10?

[bulldogtragic]

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Is he really worth pick 8-10?

I don’t think so, I’m an advocate for trading down a top 10 pick to multiple mid/late first rounders.

[Mofra]

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What would he be worth as far as draft picks are concerned?

Our first with Gold Coast's late first (18/19) coming back to us?

I'd love to try and trade for both GWS first rounders and offer the later one for Jack Martin with a future 3rd or 4th coming back to us.

Jack simply shouldn't have been playing last week due to injury. If anything it shows he cares about playing. I really think he's the type who would play better in a better side - not dissimilar to Sam Lloyd who lacks Martin's pace and overhead ability.

[Grantysghost]

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Our first with Gold Coast's late first (18/19) coming back to us?

I'd love to try and trade for both GWS first rounders and offer the later one for Jack Martin with a future 3rd or 4th coming back to us.

Jack simply shouldn't have been playing last week due to injury. If anything it shows he cares about playing. I really think he's the type who would play better in a better side - not dissimilar to Sam Lloyd who lacks Martin's pace and overhead ability.

Do they need more draft picks? I'd be trying to satisfy them with a player deal. They need big bodied inside mids. We have a surplus it appears. Mitch / Lin springs to mind as hard as that is to throw up. We may need to sweeten the deal, but I'd prefer that scenario I think.

[1eyedog]

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Mitch just signed a new deal and Jongy has bugger all collateral.

[Mofra]

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Mitch just signed a new deal and Jongy has bugger all collateral.

Yep - and Jong was offered more money at Gold Coast last time and chose to sign with us instead.
That's if Jongy plays on at all.

Everybody knows Gold Coast want players but if nobody wants to go there that point is moot.

[Grantysghost]

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Mitch just signed a new deal and Jongy has bugger all collateral.

Not sure contracts are worth that much these days.

[Grantysghost]

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Yep - and Jong was offered more money at Gold Coast last time and chose to sign with us instead.
That's if Jongy plays on at all.

Everybody knows Gold Coast want players but if nobody wants to go there that point is moot.

Well we aren't talking Dangerfield. They would be fringe players who want regular senior games. If we look back over the last two seasons players like Miles, Hombsch , Ellis, Horlin-Smith, Collins, Lachie Weller, Harrison Wigg, Aaron Young. It's not a who's who granted, but players will go there if they see it as an option for senior football regularly it seems.

I take your point for sure, but I can't be as dismissive of the idea of players instead of picks.

[1eyedog]

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Well we aren't talking Dangerfield. They would be fringe players who want regular senior games. If we look back over the last two seasons players like Miles, Hombsch , Ellis, Horlin-Smith, Collins, Lachie Weller, Harrison Wigg, Aaron Young. It's not a who's who granted, but players will go there if they see it as an option for senior football regularly it seems.

I take your point for sure, but I can't be as dismissive of the idea of players instead of picks.

So who else are you going to put up? I can't see us palming Mitch off when we just signed him up. We just wouldn't do it and I don't think we should. If you're talking players who would you send up there to appease them in a player swap involving Martin? Victorian boy and Premiership player McLean? Assuming Williams is going home...

I think we can pretty much say that Dicko, Suckers, Dale and R Smith have close to zero collateral as well so it has to be someone good.

[GVGjr]

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Our first pick. I'd do it too.

I tend to agree but I suspect they will want more though but given they have dropped him on form it makes it harder for them

Our first round pick for Martin and a 3rd rounder would be a good outcome if we could swing it