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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    #61
    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Originally posted by bornadog
    Not sure why he calls him a forward? We want a CHB
    Poor tweet construction I think. I think his point is there’s not many forwards which is why we are chasing a KPD since there’s not a heap of forwards. He doesn’t understand our needs. We need both now.

    Tomlinson said he was waiting to sign once jmac signed up Kelly & Cogs. Maybe more money changes that for him. I’d like to get the benefit of a good free agent and keep/use/trade good picks.
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    • dog town
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2007
      • 1914

      #62
      Re: Proactive Poaching

      If you look through the players traded last year I don’t think many of them were predicted during the year. Players will pop up and we don’t want to put all our eggs in one basket and not be able to swing to someone new.

      We need forward options but we don’t want another tall unless they are a star. Medium forwards and smalls is what we need. Potentially could do with a key defender as well if available.

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14915

        #63
        Re: Proactive Poaching

        Originally posted by dog town
        If you look through the players traded last year I don’t think many of them were predicted during the year. Players will pop up and we don’t want to put all our eggs in one basket and not be able to swing to someone new.

        We need forward options but we don’t want another tall unless they are a star. Medium forwards and smalls is what we need. Potentially could do with a key defender as well if available.
        Tomlinson is a 193cm super mobile utility. He'd be brilliant for us but I'm not sure he's had too much exposure forward of the ball.
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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66573

          #64
          Re: Proactive Poaching

          Originally posted by Mofra
          Tomlinson is a 193cm super mobile utility. He'd be brilliant for us but I'm not sure he's had too much exposure forward of the ball.
          Too short
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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 11118

            #65
            Re: Proactive Poaching

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Too short
            Officially listed as 194cm and 96kgs (exactly the same as Alex Rance). I think he's fine size wise.

            Tom Browne mentioned this on Talking Footy as well and is definitely saying that we are interested in him as a forward. Perhaps we see Tomlinson as a forward and the rumoured Carlton tall as a KPD? We should have the cash for both.

            What sort of contract would we need to offer Tomlinson? $600-$700k? 4-5 years?

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14915

              #66
              Re: Proactive Poaching

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Too short
              Too short for what?

              Our second forward marking option right now is 186cm.
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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14915

                #67
                Re: Proactive Poaching

                Originally posted by Axe Man
                What sort of contract would we need to offer Tomlinson? $600-$700k? 4-5 years?
                He's 26? 4 years shouldn;t be much of a risk, he's played at a high level for many years.

                TBH I'm a little surprised he's even gettable, always seemed more likely to stay than leave but we do have cap space.
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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  #68
                  Re: Proactive Poaching

                  Originally posted by Mofra
                  He's 26? 4 years shouldn;t be much of a risk, he's played at a high level for many years.

                  TBH I'm a little surprised he's even gettable, always seemed more likely to stay than leave but we do have cap space.
                  If it saved some coin ($50,000 a year or so), I'd strongly consider 5 years. Hypothetically $600,000 into $550,000. That'd take him to 31 which is still ok I think.

                  If he's our alleged tall forward replacement, we have over a million dollars to get a KPD (being that Day isn't being talked about as a forward option for us maybe he's not a focus) maybe that Carlton rumour that Axe Man and you've heard about a KPD might be an option. Guessing a name, Weitering, he wouldn't command a major, major salary. So we'd still have left over salary cap to look at a medium/small forward. Plus a suite of good draft picks. For us to compete seriously next year we need some ready made players. If we could pick up three or four while getting some more talented kids, that seems sensible.
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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66573

                    #69
                    Re: Proactive Poaching

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    Too short for what?

                    Our second forward marking option right now is 186cm.
                    Schache is 199
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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14915

                      #70
                      Re: Proactive Poaching

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Schache is 199
                      ...And he's playing in the VFL.

                      Talent beats height, especially considering we are looking for a mobile no 2 tall. De Goey types are what every coach wants now and Tomlinson is seriously mobile.
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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66573

                        #71
                        Re: Proactive Poaching

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        ...And he's playing in the VFL.

                        Talent beats height, especially considering we are looking for a mobile no 2 tall. De Goey types are what every coach wants now and Tomlinson is seriously mobile.
                        I have got to say, I don't see it.

                        Would love De Goey though (who wouldn't)
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                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • Happy Days
                          Hall of Fame
                          • May 2008
                          • 10133

                          #72
                          Re: Proactive Poaching

                          Originally posted by Mofra
                          ...And he's playing in the VFL.

                          Talent beats height, especially considering we are looking for a mobile no 2 tall. De Goey types are what every coach wants now and Tomlinson is seriously mobile.
                          Tomlinson has never shown anything as a forward. If we got him it would be to play on the De Goey types.
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                          • AshMac
                            WOOF Member
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 1714

                            #73
                            Re: Proactive Poaching

                            I’d be delighted w Tomlinson. Know Browne said we could mould him as a fwd, but I’d have thought he’d be a defender.
                            The dam wall has busted!

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44571

                              #74
                              Re: Proactive Poaching

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              Tomlinson is a 193cm super mobile utility. He'd be brilliant for us but I'm not sure he's had too much exposure forward of the ball.
                              I've pushed his name forward a few time here as a mobile defender who is capable of creating mismatches. I can't see us getting him but Bevo should appreciate his abilities
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                              • BornInDroopSt'54
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 5237

                                #75
                                Re: Proactive Poaching

                                Yes Bevo would like him. I like Aliir. He is so good.
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