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  • Testekill
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 2327

    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    Bring him in and trade Gowers for whatever pick? If Dickson didn't play on, the two wages combined would be tempting for Elliot.
    Yeah if Dickson were to make the call to not play on then I'd jump on that immediately. Gowers is one of our few players that plays with aggression but he also plays with zero discipline which hurt us a lot in the VFL matches that I watched this year.

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    • Happy Days
      Hall of Fame
      • May 2008
      • 10123

      Re: Proactive Poaching

      Would anyone else want Gowers?

      I know it doesn’t seem it but this is a serious question - has any other club shown interest like North did for Lynch or Jong with the Pies/GC?
      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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      • whythelongface
        Coaching Staff
        • Jan 2007
        • 4425

        Re: Proactive Poaching

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Is he that good of a footballer to have a number of clubs interested?
        Always liked Elliott as a small marking forward. Quick, goal smart and very competitive. Injuries are the only concern.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44471

          Re: Proactive Poaching

          Originally posted by whythelongface
          Always liked Elliott as a small marking forward. Quick, goal smart and very competitive. Injuries are the only concern.
          That's one of my concerns as well. Continuity of football is a requirement
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44471

            Re: Proactive Poaching

            Originally posted by Happy Days
            Would anyone else want Gowers?

            I know it doesn’t seem it but this is a serious question - has any other club shown interest like North did for Lynch or Jong with the Pies/GC?
            He might struggle to find another home
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              Re: Proactive Poaching

              Originally posted by Happy Days
              Would anyone else want Gowers?

              I know it doesn’t seem it but this is a serious question - has any other club shown interest like North did for Lynch or Jong with the Pies/GC?
              I was thinking just freeing the spot and money up while keeping list balance. Pick 80 or a half eaten four and twenty pie would do. I'm not sure we can even consider Elliott without maybe moving Gowers & Dicko on (for spots and cash). We've got Dale, Lloyd, Greene, Cavarra, McLean, West (currently playing as a forward) and then Elliott. Remembering this came from Tom Browne so odds are he's already recommitted to Collingwood.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                Re: Proactive Poaching

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                He might struggle to find another home
                Won our goal kicking in his first season. Surely for pick 80 someone would take him. If 17 other clubs don't rate him, then come next year neither should we.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44471

                  Re: Proactive Poaching

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  Won our goal kicking in his first season. Surely for pick 80 someone would take him. If 17 other clubs don't rate him, then come next year neither should we.
                  I scanned through a few clubs playing lists and couldn't find a home for him
                  Some club might get interested but I think it's up to him now to just get better
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Axe Man
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 11083

                    Re: Proactive Poaching

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    So Friday of next week is the opening of free agency. Apart from the discussion on Elliot, are there any other free agents we should be looking at?
                    Perhaps Hartley from Essendon if other KPD options don't eventuate.

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14899

                      Re: Proactive Poaching

                      Originally posted by Happy Days
                      Would anyone else want Gowers?

                      I know it doesn’t seem it but this is a serious question - has any other club shown interest like North did for Lynch or Jong with the Pies/GC?
                      Hawks were rumoured to have a little bit of interest.
                      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14899

                        Re: Proactive Poaching

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        Is he that good of a footballer to have a number of clubs interested?
                        Yes, 100%. Injuries have held him back but there aren't many better when he's on the paddock.
                        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                        • 1eyedog
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 13215

                          Re: Proactive Poaching

                          Yeah Elliot's a great player, would love him.
                          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66408

                            Re: Proactive Poaching

                            Ryder has nominated Saints, and now looking at trades - but what do they have?
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • Danjul
                              WOOF Member
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 1603

                              Re: Proactive Poaching

                              I find the comments about Gowers fit a pattern.

                              Looking at the years 2017, 2018 And 2019 only two players have kicked more goals in a season for the Bulldogs, Lloyd and Naughton in 2019.

                              looking at 2019 Lloyd was only 2 goals ahead of Gowers (from 1 more game) when Gowers disappeared. Naughton was 4 ahead.

                              I don’t think he would have been brushed aside as easily as the others when the going got tough a couple of weeks ago.

                              He should be a work in progress, is anyone doing the work?

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                              • Happy Days
                                Hall of Fame
                                • May 2008
                                • 10123

                                Re: Proactive Poaching

                                Originally posted by Danjul
                                I find the comments about Gowers fit a pattern.

                                Looking at the years 2017, 2018 And 2019 only two players have kicked more goals in a season for the Bulldogs, Lloyd and Naughton in 2019.

                                looking at 2019 Lloyd was only 2 goals ahead of Gowers (from 1 more game) when Gowers disappeared. Naughton was 4 ahead.

                                I don’t think he would have been brushed aside as easily as the others when the going got tough a couple of weeks ago.

                                He should be a work in progress, is anyone doing the work?
                                Those goal stats are a convenient truth. Billy offers nothing else other than occasionally hitting the scoreboard, which he does with pretty horrid inaccuracy. He doesn’t, for example, lead the league in contested marking.

                                You usually bemoan a lack of disposals - not sure how you can reconcile that with wanting to persist with a player like Bill.
                                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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