Proactive Poaching

[bulldogtragic]

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Naughton says hello with 7 votes.

He's a KPF. ..

[bulldogtragic]

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West is also another option - I’d be training him in the forwards group all summer. Let him do his apprenticeship there and then he can transition into mid.

Good call.

[Bornadog]

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He's a KPF. ..

Whoops

[Axe Man]

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POPULAR PIE GAINING MORE INTEREST

Collingwood forward Jamie Elliott may have played his last game in black and white with four Victorian rivals in the race for him, reports 7 News.

The 27-year-old Elliott kicked one goal in the Magpies’ heartbreaking Preliminary Final loss to GWS and has a two-year deal on the table from his current club.

But while his preference is reportedly to stay if possible, longer and more lucrative contracts are available elsewhere.

Melbourne is said to have put a three-year deal out there for Elliott but their offer could easily be usurped by one of three rivals with more salary cap space.

Hawthorn, the Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne would be able to give the largest offers if they come to the table.

Elliott played 16 games this year after missing the entire 2016 and 2018 campaigns through injury, but has kicked over 1.5 goals a game when fit over his 105-match career.

[The Doctor]

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These posts linking us to Elliott are just ridiculous. There is nothing in them that provides any credibility. It's just Player A is on the market & the Bulldogs 'would be able to give the largest offers' "Tom Browne started it and the others are now recycling. It's really pathetic journalism.

[azabob]

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These posts linking us to Elliott are just ridiculous. There is nothing in them that provides any credibility. It's just Player A is on the market & the Bulldogs 'would be able to give the largest offers' "Tom Browne started it and the others are now recycling. It's really pathetic journalism.

Spot on Doctor, spot on.

[bulldogtragic]

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These posts linking us to Elliott are just ridiculous. There is nothing in them that provides any credibility. It's just Player A is on the market & the Bulldogs 'would be able to give the largest offers' "Tom Browne started it and the others are now recycling. It's really pathetic journalism.

Yep. Sam Edmund today only mentioned Melbourne as the main other club. Possibly very early stage chat by North. But that's it.

I compared Martin & Elliott on Footywire though. Interesting comparison, despite no link to us.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=24&playerStatus2=A&tid2=5&type=A&pid1=3915&pid2=3625&fid1=S&fid2=S

[ledge]

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These posts linking us to Elliott are just ridiculous. There is nothing in them that provides any credibility. It's just Player A is on the market & the Bulldogs 'would be able to give the largest offers' "Tom Browne started it and the others are now recycling. It's really pathetic journalism.

It gets worse every year, make up 100s of trade stories with no basis and get one right and then claim inside knowledge.
All about getting readers and click bait.

[GVGjr]

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These posts linking us to Elliott are just ridiculous. There is nothing in them that provides any credibility. It's just Player A is on the market & the Bulldogs 'would be able to give the largest offers' "Tom Browne started it and the others are now recycling. It's really pathetic journalism.

I tend to agree Doc, they're putting two and two together to create a story

[Axe Man]

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Certainly they are just filling in content with stories like the Elliot one but at least the article is transparent and not falsely linking us as having made an offer.

We were always going to be linked to every player under the sun once Boyd retired. Just enjoy and discuss or ignore.

The media just make this stuff up rhetoric has been done to death, does it really need to be trotted out everytime we post something for discussion here?

[Mofra]

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Keath has had a couple of BOG in Brownlow

He won the showdown medal this year, I assume he got votes for that game.
The guy is a seriously good footballer.

[Mofra]

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It’s not about the mechanics of where they sit in the attacking half. It’s not about how mobile Naughton and Schache are either it’s about our ability to defend the ground. The ball can’t exit our forward 50 quickly with the assertive defensive positions we take and having 3 talls is a potential disaster for our team defence. It especially can’t exit quickly up the corridor or via a switch before we have a chance to close exits.

I think we should still get him because it gives us depth in a crucial area but unless we change our defensive method or get some serious leg speed around them I don’t see us being able to play 3 talls.

Naughton is our best defensive forward. He should be excluded from any "top heavy" conversation.

[dog town]

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Naughton is our best defensive forward. He should be excluded from any "top heavy" conversation.

There is more to it than effort. Unless we completely change the way we defend we can’t go in with 3 talls and 2/3 medium players not known for their ability at ground level. Yes, Naughton is decent for a big man but it’s not the same as aggressively closing space. This is not just at the source but also ahead of the ball.

If we are efficient and mark the ball it won’t have as big an impact but when it’s get to the big games the ball hits the deck. We need to be able to win that territory game and create time for our players to set up behind the ball. If we go this way I hope I am extremely wrong but my experiences tell me our mix won’t work with them all in. It doesn’t need to though as we have enough versatility to throw things around. Worst case scenario we drop a good player.

I do think we need to be careful that we don’t make our list too tall again. Two KPP would be good during trade period but I think 3 just means we will have too many on our list.

[bulldogtragic]

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The Hun:

Jamie Elliott (Collingwood)

Plenty of suitors, not much cap space at the Pies. It’s a guesstimate, but if Collingwood offered two years at $350,000 and Melbourne offered four years at $400,000, it’s a heck of a lot of guaranteed coin to pass up.

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I think I’m a bit interested on 4 years $400,000+. Average afl wage is about $380,000.

[Vred]

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The only Pie Im interested in us picking up is Darcy Moore - Id throw him what he wanted if it meant getting someone like him in our backline