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  • 1eyedog
    Hall of Fame
    • Mar 2008
    • 13248

    Re: 2020 Player movement

    Originally posted by Happy Days
    Josh Bruce didn’t kick 6 on Goldstein.
    Nah but English used his head to wash the deck of the HMAS Bulldogs
    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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    • Axe Man
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 11207

      Re: 2020 Player movement

      Originally posted by 1eyedog
      You keep mentioning him and initially had him in your potential starting 22 for 2021 thread. Are we likely to go hard at him? Is he likely to nominate us?
      AFL.com think O'Halloran's decision may depend on what Caldwell does. GWS probably won't want to lose Hately, Caldwell and O'Halloran.

      JYE CALDWELL

      Has shown glimpses of his potential that prompted the Giants to select him at No.11 in the star-studded 2018 NAB AFL Draft. Now he's got a decision to make on his future. Caldwell has always been the Giants' highest priority midfield signing (over Jackson Hately and Xavier O'Halloran) and they've now increased their offer to four years. St Kilda has had interest for some time and Brett Ratten flagged the need for extra midfield depth when speaking after Friday night's semi-final exit. The 20-year-old would suit a number of clubs, including Essendon and Hawthorn, too.

      XAVIER O'HALLORAN

      The market for midfielders is stacked this year so the Victorian is sitting back waiting for things to unfold elsewhere before making a call. Giants teammate Jackson Hately has selected Adelaide and fellow 2018 first-round draftee Jye Caldwell is undecided on his future. Should Caldwell join Hately out the door, then O'Halloran will receive more opportunities in the Giants midfield. He broke through for two games in 2020 and there will be interest in his home state should he seek a new home.
      Trade Period state of play: Who's going, who's undecided

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66861

        Re: 2020 Player movement

        Essendon now chasing De Goey - I guess they want to bring in some better culture.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • The Underdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2007
          • 6885

          Re: 2020 Player movement

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Essendon now chasing De Goey - I guess they want to bring in some better culture.
          Jeez, De Goey and Stringer together. That’d be a heap of bad tatts, a couple of match winning performances and a lot of games where they both go missing.
          Park that car
          Drop that phone
          Sleep on the floor
          Dream about me

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44736

            Re: 2020 Player movement

            Originally posted by 1eyedog
            You keep mentioning him and initially had him in your potential starting 22 for 2021 thread. Are we likely to go hard at him? Is he likely to nominate us?
            I think he would have some interest in playing for us given his ties to the club.
            I'm not sure we will be that active in trading despite Bevo's comments after the elimination final loss might indicate and we might only look for one mid and one KP player. It's going to be where Sam Power really earns his keep juggling points required for Ugle-Hagan and trying to land someone like O'Halloran and a KP player.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • dog town
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2007
              • 1915

              Re: 2020 Player movement

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              I think he would have some interest in playing for us given his ties to the club.
              I'm not sure we will be that active in trading despite Bevo's comments after the elimination final loss might indicate and we might only look for one mid and one KP player. It's going to be where Sam Power really earns his keep juggling points required for Ugle-Hagan and trying to land someone like O'Halloran and a KP player.
              Is there any concern we overpaid some players post 2016? It would be understandable for players like JJ, Wood and others to have got big contracts at the time. In my view our list is inferior to most and others seem to have endless cap space to bring in players each off season.

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              • bulldogsthru&thru
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • May 2011
                • 7743

                Re: 2020 Player movement

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Essendon now chasing De Goey - I guess they want to bring in some better culture.
                I like this news. Shows that they aren't really genuine in changing the culture down there and their downward path will continue.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66861

                  Re: 2020 Player movement

                  Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                  I like this news. Shows that they aren't really genuine in changing the culture down there and their downward path will continue.
                  BTW, Carlton have no interest in him
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44736

                    Re: 2020 Player movement

                    Originally posted by dog town
                    Is there any concern we overpaid some players post 2016? It would be understandable for players like JJ, Wood and others to have got big contracts at the time. In my view our list is inferior to most and others seem to have endless cap space to bring in players each off season.
                    At the time we probably had a few clubs coming for our players and it was the right thing to do.
                    I'm not sure we have a cap issue but we just don't have the capacity to overpay players and really chase the higher paid guys
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14989

                      Re: 2020 Player movement

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      At the time we probably had a few clubs coming for our players and it was the right thing to do.
                      I'm not sure we have a cap issue but we just don't have the capacity to overpay players and really chase the higher paid guys
                      We picked up Trengove as a FA and made offers to Wingard and Martin so I'd say we have space.

                      Bruce and Keath are on healthy deals and there didn't seem to be any cap space concern this time last year. Given Trengove is unlikely to stay on and Wood would have surely signed on a contract reduction I think we'd still have plenty of space, although Bailey Smith is in line for a hefty payrise.
                      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                      • Axe Man
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 11207

                        Re: 2020 Player movement

                        Originally posted by dog town
                        Is there any concern we overpaid some players post 2016? It would be understandable for players like JJ, Wood and others to have got big contracts at the time. In my view our list is inferior to most and others seem to have endless cap space to bring in players each off season.
                        We have done well making the finals the last 2 years then with a list that is worse than most! Strange view.

                        JJ is the obvious one that is arguably being overpaid relative to his output over the past few seasons. Wood had a fairly large contract but that is now done and one would assume his new contract would be on reduced terms. I don't think we are lumbered with too many overblown contracts compared to many other lists.

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                        • Bulldog Revolution
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 3928

                          Re: 2020 Player movement

                          Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                          I like this news. Shows that they aren't really genuine in changing the culture down there and their downward path will continue.
                          Its a media strategy to neutralise all the negativity - if they attract De Goey then it takes the heat off Saad, Daniher and Fantasia wanting out

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                          • dog town
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1915

                            Re: 2020 Player movement

                            Originally posted by Axe Man
                            We have done well making the finals the last 2 years then with a list that is worse than most! Strange view.

                            JJ is the obvious one that is arguably being overpaid relative to his output over the past few seasons. Wood had a fairly large contract but that is now done and one would assume his new contract would be on reduced terms. I don't think we are lumbered with too many overblown contracts compared to many other lists.
                            We have done very well I would have thought.

                            If you look at match ups analytically every week as I do there wasn’t many weeks where I thought we have a team covered for overall talent. Bevo manufactures lots of wins because he is elite but I would argue there is some teams with 5/6 forwards and backs who would be ranked 1st or 2nd for us in those areas of the ground.

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                            • Topdog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7471

                              Re: 2020 Player movement

                              Originally posted by The Underdog
                              Jeez, De Goey and Stringer together. That’d be a heap of bad tatts, a couple of match winning performances and a lot of games where they both go missing.
                              You may be confusing De Goey with someone else because he doesnt really go missing at all. Injury prone though

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66861

                                Re: 2020 Player movement

                                Pruess to GWS
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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