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  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9880

    Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    He wasn't a bad player and you have to wonder why things went so bad.
    He's still got a big contract hasn't he like around 700K a season.
    North were desperate to land someone that year. Everyone else they targeted signed with their clubs or went elsewhere, Polec was the next best thing. At a guess his deal was probably heavily front ended.

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    • soupman
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2007
      • 5112

      Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

      The Greenwood debacle is pretty woeful from a GC perspective.

      Had to delist him with a view to redrafting him so that they could use the required 3 draft picks. He even made a very public post about how it wasn't a big deal and he was very cool with it. Two days later it's announced he's gonna sign with North.

      Lose one of their better players (and few good senior ones) for nothing over trying to exploit a list strategy loophole.
      I should leave it alone but you're not right

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 18979

        Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

        Originally posted by soupman
        The Greenwood debacle is pretty woeful from a GC perspective.

        Had to delist him with a view to redrafting him so that they could use the required 3 draft picks. He even made a very public post about how it wasn't a big deal and he was very cool with it. Two days later it's announced he's gonna sign with North.

        Lose one of their better players (and few good senior ones) for nothing over trying to exploit a list strategy loophole.
        I would go as far as to say the biggest list management stuff up I’ve seen for a very long time. They needed a hard body to protect their young mids, now he’s walked to the opposition due to their list management incompetence.

        Do we need this team?
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44581

          Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

          Originally posted by soupman
          The Greenwood debacle is pretty woeful from a GC perspective.

          Had to delist him with a view to redrafting him so that they could use the required 3 draft picks. He even made a very public post about how it wasn't a big deal and he was very cool with it. Two days later it's announced he's gonna sign with North.

          Lose one of their better players (and few good senior ones) for nothing over trying to exploit a list strategy loophole.
          An exceptionally poor decision and adds to loss of Lyon and Martin in recent years for not much.
          Burns and Cameron should have a bit of explaining to do.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18979

            Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            An exceptionally poor decision and adds to loss of Lyon and Martin in recent years for not much.
            Burns and Cameron should have a bit of explaining to do.
            If we aren’t all over Rowell we should be. Seeya Dunks!
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • The Bulldogs Bite
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11230

              Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

              Fold GC.

              They are absolutely useless.
              W00F!

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15296

                Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                I would go as far as to say the biggest list management stuff up I’ve seen for a very long time. They needed a hard body to protect their young mids, now he’s walked to the opposition due to their list management incompetence.

                Do we need this team?
                Biggest since Jarrod Lyons perhaps?
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44581

                  Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  Biggest since Jarrod Lyons perhaps?
                  And they got nothing for Martin as well.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 14918

                    Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

                    Originally posted by soupman
                    The Greenwood debacle is pretty woeful from a GC perspective.

                    Had to delist him with a view to redrafting him so that they could use the required 3 draft picks. He even made a very public post about how it wasn't a big deal and he was very cool with it. Two days later it's announced he's gonna sign with North.

                    Lose one of their better players (and few good senior ones) for nothing over trying to exploit a list strategy loophole.
                    It's a weird one - why not use Darcy McPherson instead who was shopped around but had no takers? Far less risky.
                    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                    • The Doctor
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 3702

                      Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

                      I think the spotlight of scrutiny should be on former AFL wonder boy Mark Evans.

                      Almost 5 years in the job at Gold Coast and they are still a rabble. How can this Greenwood fiasco be allowed to happen? In the trade period they were looking to off load McPherson & pick 19 for sweet FA just for salary cap relief. They are a laughing stock.
                      Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                      • The Underdog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 6855

                        Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

                        Originally posted by The Doctor
                        I think the spotlight of scrutiny should be on former AFL wonder boy Mark Evans.

                        Almost 5 years in the job at Gold Coast and they are still a rabble. How can this Greenwood fiasco be allowed to happen? In the trade period they were looking to off load McPherson & pick 19 for sweet FA just for salary cap relief. They are a laughing stock.
                        It’s interesting, I mean, it’s not like they have a bunch of newbs making these decisions. They’ve put in a group of experienced operators and the stuff ups are getting worse. I’m not sure Greenwood is completely blameless here, although it does have the appearance that maybe GC found a fairly ingenious way to shed salary cap if that’s what they were really aiming for.
                        Park that car
                        Drop that phone
                        Sleep on the floor
                        Dream about me

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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15296

                          Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

                          Originally posted by The Underdog
                          It’s interesting, I mean, it’s not like they have a bunch of newbs making these decisions. They’ve put in a group of experienced operators and the stuff ups are getting worse. I’m not sure Greenwood is completely blameless here, although it does have the appearance that maybe GC found a fairly ingenious way to shed salary cap if that’s what they were really aiming for.
                          No he is not. But you can't blame him either. More money, longer contract seems a no brainer.
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14918

                            Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

                            Originally posted by azabob
                            No he is not. But you can't blame him either. More money, longer contract seems a no brainer.
                            IIRC a similar scenario happened in his NBL days as well.
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15296

                              Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              IIRC a similar scenario happened in his NBL days as well.
                              Interesting, not across that detail. But if you believe media reports coming out it was his wife that started the ball rolling!
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • comrade
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 18006

                                Re: Delisting and Retirements - 2021

                                How did it play out? Greenwood’s agent went to North and told them what was up and encouraged them to make an offer? If so, pretty dirty on Greenwood’s behalf, though GC are so incompetent they don’t deserve any sympathy.

                                Hope it blows up in all their faces.
                                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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