Early Trade Rumours for 2022

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65598

    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Originally posted by soupman
    As for West and Garcia having his role already. Well this is the first time we've seen fit to give West an extended run at it basically ever, and Garcia is super injury prone. They are hardly the two most bankable mid prospects, and both also lack the size Macrae offers.
    So are you saying West and Garcia won't make it as midfielders and we should look elsewhere?

    McComb is also a midfielder and has shown at least at VFL level, he can get alot of the ball. Early days whether he can make it as an AFL player
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    • soupman
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2007
      • 5077

      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

      Originally posted by bornadog
      So are you saying West and Garcia won't make it as midfielders and we should look elsewhere?

      McComb is also a midfielder and has shown at least at VFL level, he can get alot of the ball. Early days whether he can make it as an AFL player
      I'm not saying they won't make it but I don't really think they are bankable in the slightest.

      I've been pleased with West's efforts these last few weeks after basically writing him off but I still think he is undersized for a pure mid role and regardless is gonna have to work pretty hard just to be a regular player. And besides my point isn't that he isn't talented enough, more we have refused to play him more than occasionally until now (and even then how safe is his spot) so much like Young its irrelevant how good he can be if we don't want to put the time in.

      Garcia could have all the talent in the world, but is so injury prone that he's at best a 5050 shot of getting a good enough run for us to figure that out. Many more talented prospects have not made it in the same circumstances, Morabito a good example from Freo, even Tom Williams with us.

      If you are banking on either of them to be our next generation of mids id be worried.

      As for McComb he is fine but not sure he has shown he is capable of being anything more than depth, and at his age isn't exactly the next generation either.
      I should leave it alone but you're not right

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 43902

        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Probably not. I know the club was trying, to get players but with no currency it is difficult.
        Makes losing Young sting just that bit more.
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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14797

          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

          Originally posted by Scraggers
          It is such a shame that we are now looking for midfield back up when we had a ready-made in our midst.
          Say what?

          Take out Baz and we're still playing Dunks and Treloar as high forwards, and Rhylee West who is a contested animal hasn't had a single CBA that I can recall
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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 65598

            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Makes losing Young sting just that bit more.
            Isn't Young more a intercept player?

            We need a good one on one player who can go up against the Lynches, Kings etc of the world.
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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14797

              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

              Originally posted by soupman
              I've been pleased with West's efforts these last few weeks after basically writing him off but I still think he is undersized for a pure mid role and regardless is gonna have to work pretty hard just to be a regular player.
              We seem to love a tougher nut HF or two and right now I'd say West is leading the pack.
              I don't buy the size argument - he's bigger than Neale/Gresham the the same size as Rowell, Josh Ward, and the Crouch brothers. If you're big enough, you're good enough.
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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 43902

                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Isn't Young more a intercept player?

                We need a good one on one player who can go up against the Lynches, Kings etc of the world.
                We said the same when Keath arrived at the club and he is our primary lock down player on the opposition key forwards.
                Young is playing more 1 v 1 with Carlton. It's good to be able to do both.
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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65598

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  We said the same when Keath arrived at the club and he is our primary lock down player on the opposition key forwards.
                  Young is playing more 1 v 1 with Carlton. It's good to be able to do both.
                  Keath plays that role out of necessity and is only average at doing it.

                  We need a 200cm lockdown fullback.
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 43902

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Keath plays that role out of necessity and is only average at doing it.

                    We need a 200cm lockdown fullback.
                    I'm not as hung up on the height aspect. A good player can cover for a perceived lack of height.
                    Freo have a good back line because of the structure and aside of Pearce it's still big enough to cover the opposition.
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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10023

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                      Steve May, comfortably the best key defender in the AFL, is what 190cm? Maybe less?
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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 65598

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        Steve May, comfortably the best key defender in the AFL, is what 190cm? Maybe less?
                        I will say some are extra good in the role, but put these guys up against the monster forwards and it is a different story.

                        I am not saying they have to be exactly 200cm, but the taller than better.
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                        • G-Mo77
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9873

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Probably not. I know the club was trying, to get players but with no currency it is difficult.
                          They really mustn't of tried too hard. Numerous backup rucks were on the market in the off-season, we didn't seem to make a play at any of them and then let a back up KPD go for almost nothing. Getting points for Darcy hamstrung us a lot and we would have need to be creative, if we were serious and IMO we weren't, we would have got a backup ruckman.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 43902

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            Steve May, comfortably the best key defender in the AFL, is what 190cm? Maybe less?
                            He's listed on the Melbourne FC at 193cm. He's tall enough because he is good enough. I've also seen him listed at 190cm.

                            I don't think getting a 200cm defender who is just average is the answer. Happy to consider players substantially shorter than that if they're effective.
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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65598

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              He's listed on the Melbourne FC at 193cm. He's tall enough because he is good enough. I've also seen him listed at 190cm.

                              I don't think getting a 200cm defender who is just average is the answer. Happy to consider players substantially shorter than that if they're effective.
                              Who wants a 200cm average defender?

                              We have to get a quality defender.
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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21416

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                                Originally posted by Happy Days
                                Steve May, comfortably the best key defender in the AFL, is what 190cm? Maybe less?
                                According to the Melbourne web site he's 193cm, and looks every bit of it on TV.
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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