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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15122

    #76
    Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

    Originally posted by Happy Days
    Short of Neale their midfield is a little soft, and they don’t have any quality rucks to help them out. They’re trying to bring Rayner in to win more ball but any gains he brings are mitigated both by Lyons’ regression and Rayner’s own defensive weaknesses.

    Its making them give up more points than ever, and Andrews hasn’t seemed to be coping with quicker ball coming in from what I’ve seen (despite being 200cm tall BAD).

    I dunno. They’re still very good with the ball but I don’t trust them or anyone that could lose a final to us.
    Yeah fair calls. McCluggage is a soon to be jet but needs to become more damaging on the scoreboard.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18731

      #77
      Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

      Originally posted by azabob
      Yeah fair calls. McCluggage is a soon to be jet but needs to become more damaging on the scoreboard.
      What a shame Essendon went for a midget with their undeserved number 1. Not dodos fault though!
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 17841

        #78
        Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

        They lost to us by a point in a game that could have gone either way and would have smashed Port just like we did. They also would have put up a better fight in the GF.
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65601

          #79
          Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

          Originally posted by comrade
          They lost to us by a point in a game that could have gone either way and would have smashed Port just like we did. They also would have put up a better fight in the GF.
          Although Melbourne were pretty hot last year. They demolished Geelong in the prelim by 83 points, and also beat them in round 23 when they were almost 6 goals behind at 3/4 time and produced one of those GF quarters at Kardinia Park to storm home and win by 4 points. They also beat Brissie by 33 points in the qualifying - played in Adelaide
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10023

            #80
            Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

            Originally posted by comrade
            They lost to us by a point in a game that could have gone either way and would have smashed Port just like we did. They also would have put up a better fight in the GF.
            Based on my rough calculations they would have lost the GF by at least 75 points.
            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18731

              #81
              Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

              Originally posted by comrade
              They lost to us by a point in a game that could have gone either way and would have smashed Port just like we did. They also would have put up a better fight in the GF.
              They've lost a few finals at the Gabba they shouldn't have.

              That prelim v the cats mein gott!
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 17841

                #82
                Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Although Melbourne were pretty hot last year. They demolished Geelong in the prelim by 83 points, and also beat them in round 23 when they were almost 6 goals behind at 3/4 time and produced one of those GF quarters at Kardinia Park to storm home and win by 4 points. They also beat Brissie by 33 points in the qualifying - played in Adelaide
                Yeah, no one was beating Melbourne during the finals. They were the best side by quite a margin.
                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10023

                  #83
                  Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

                  Gawn’s out for maybe 2 months with a beard strain. How devastating.
                  - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 18731

                    #84
                    Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    Gawn’s out for maybe 2 months with a beard strain. How devastating
                    Fitzroy has an official day of mourning tomorrow.
                    BT COME BACK!​

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18731

                      #85
                      Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

                      Originally posted by comrade
                      Yeah, no one was beating Melbourne during the finals. They were the best side by quite a margin.
                      Finishing top was an extra bonus last year with the limited travel.
                      It was a pretty compromised finals series.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 17841

                        #86
                        Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        Finishing top was an extra bonus last year with the limited travel.
                        It was a pretty compromised finals series.
                        It was a bonus but they earned it, clearly the best side throughout the year (and they were helped even further by the second best side imploding in the last month of the H&A).

                        And that finals series was as dominant as we’ve seen in recent times.
                        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                        • Hotdog60
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5772

                          #87
                          Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

                          Will Gawn be out when we play them next?
                          Don't piss off old people
                          The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 65601

                            #88
                            Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

                            Originally posted by Hotdog60
                            Will Gawn be out when we play them next?
                            Looks like it
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21418

                              #89
                              Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

                              Originally posted by comrade
                              They lost to us by a point in a game that could have gone either way and would have smashed Port just like we did. They also would have put up a better fight in the GF.
                              Agree that game could have gone either way, but again like the year before, they couldn't get it done on their home turf.

                              We played one of the best away preliminary finals ever seen, a bit like Adelaide's 1998.

                              Are you suggesting if they did get through they'd have been fresher for the grand final? That half way through the third they'd have been up by three goals (or more) and not prone to getting dismantled like we did due to fatigue and a lack of discipline?

                              Apart from the last forty-five minutes of the main dance our finals run was an amazing effort across the board and whilst I'll always be gutted by what happened in the grand final I won't ever take credit away from the club for putting it together.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • Twodogs
                                Administrator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27646

                                #90
                                Re: It’s all falling apart for the Dees

                                Originally posted by jeemak
                                Agree that game could have gone either way, but again like the year before, they couldn't get it done on their home turf.

                                We played one of the best away preliminary finals ever seen, a bit like Adelaide's 1998.

                                Are you suggesting if they did get through they'd have been fresher for the grand final? That half way through the third they'd have been up by three goals (or more) and not prone to getting dismantled like we did due to fatigue and a lack of discipline?

                                Apart from the last forty-five minutes of the main dance our finals run was an amazing effort across the board and whilst I'll always be gutted by what happened in the grand final I won't ever take credit away from the club for putting it together.
                                Exactly. We travelled all over the country, overcame injuries (as opposed to Melbourne who had a charmed run most of the season) and were still 23 points up before it all caught up with us and they came over the top.

                                Props to the Dees they were the best team all year but to downplay our effort is a bit rough.
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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