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  • bulldogsthru&thru
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • May 2011
    • 7656

    Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

    Originally posted by Happy Days
    If they don’t win the flag in 2021 maybe they’re necessarily humbled to the degree that none of this happens.
    Good point. And now it is happening because of it and all over a flag equivalent to an Ansett Cup. Glorious.

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 17847

      Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

      Yeah, if they don't win in 2021 Clayton doesn't try to snort everything in his path and they probably win back to back flags in 2022 and 2023.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • Sedat
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2007
        • 11056

        Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

        Originally posted by azabob
        It did. Early on in 2021 but they moved on Glenn Bartlett and rode through it.
        Yep. They also had elite talent, traded perfectly for specific needs and were easily the best team in 2021 - talent can hide a lot of sins.

        Irrespective of their talent, we had them on toast with 37 minutes to go in that GF and the rest is history. It shits me more now than it did at the time (the reverse GG). I'm not comforted by the fact that it was a Covid premiership and "didn't count" - it did.

        I get that had they lost in 2021 they might well have saluted in 2022/23 (their talent was obvious and they would have been even more focused/determined to atone) - we still fumbled a gilt-edged chance at a flag, and we all know those chances haven't come around often in our history.
        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 17847

          Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

          Roffey just gave one of the worst crisis management interviews in footy history. Strong presidents are so important during these times and thank god we had Gordo at the helm in 2014.
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • Sedat
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2007
            • 11056

            Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

            Originally posted by comrade
            Roffey just gave one of the worst crisis management interviews in footy history.
            She makes KW-W look like Eddie Everywhere. She's been completely unsighted since the premiership, which she had virtually nothing to do with as she was parachuted in when they unceremoniously turfed Bartlett out earlier in the year.
            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 17847

              Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

              Originally posted by Sedat
              She makes KW-W look like Eddie Everywhere. She's been completely unsighted since the premiership, which she had virtually nothing to do with as she was parachuted in when they unceremoniously turfed Bartlett out earlier in the year.
              Speaking of KWW, I somehow lucked into a ticket to the President's Luncheon for our game vs the Roos a few weeks ago. Great set up...free drinks and food, heard from Timmy English after his contract signing, Luke Darcy was swanning around while his son kicked 7 and Bains gave a good speech. Unfortunately, he did have to announce that the President was unable to make it to the President's Luncheon due to some Disney related obligations. I had a little chuckle and thought of you.

              Bring back Gordo.
              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 10906

                Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                Tom Morris
                @tommorris32
                Understand Kysaiah Pickett told Melbourne officials if he is to be traded, his preference is WA & not SA. This places West Coast, where cousin Liam Ryan is a premiership player, at the front of the queue.

                It’s not unusual for Kozzy to flirt with moving clubs and being a touch unsettled. The Dees confident they can hold onto him.

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                • bulldogsthru&thru
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • May 2011
                  • 7656

                  Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  Yep. They also had elite talent, traded perfectly for specific needs and were easily the best team in 2021 - talent can hide a lot of sins.

                  Irrespective of their talent, we had them on toast with 37 minutes to go in that GF and the rest is history. It shits me more now than it did at the time (the reverse GG). I'm not comforted by the fact that it was a Covid premiership and "didn't count" - it did.

                  I get that had they lost in 2021 they might well have saluted in 2022/23 (their talent was obvious and they would have been even more focused/determined to atone) - we still fumbled a gilt-edged chance at a flag, and we all know those chances haven't come around often in our history.
                  Hey I'll keep telling myself it didn't count. It helps me sleep at night.

                  When I think back to how screwed around we were by the afl that finals series it's the only logical conclusion I can draw. Melbourne vacationed freely around in Perth for nearly a month. Got a cats team that was food poisoned whilst we were sent flying around the country stuck in hotels. At least the year before everyone was in the same set-up. But us being quarantined in the lead up whilst they could live normal lives felt bullshit.

                  And yeah, despite all that we had them on the ropes. It's disappointing we didn't kill them off and it's equally disappointing how we handled (or didn't handle) that loss. But I just can't imagine had we won it, I would look back on it the way I would 2016 or the way I might 2024. I dunno. That whole year just felt weird.

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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11056

                    Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                    Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                    Hey I'll keep telling myself it didn't count. It helps me sleep at night.

                    When I think back to how screwed around we were by the afl that finals series it's the only logical conclusion I can draw. Melbourne vacationed freely around in Perth for nearly a month. Got a cats team that was food poisoned whilst we were sent flying around the country stuck in hotels. At least the year before everyone was in the same set-up. But us being quarantined in the lead up whilst they could live normal lives felt bullshit.

                    And yeah, despite all that we had them on the ropes. It's disappointing we didn't kill them off and it's equally disappointing how we handled (or didn't handle) that loss. But I just can't imagine had we won it, I would look back on it the way I would 2016 or the way I might 2024. I dunno. That whole year just felt weird.
                    I actually go the opposite path. It would have been the single greatest premiership in VFEL/AFEL history (and by some margin) with what we had to overcome, not just in terms of onerous travel but also having to endure dickhead state premiers/CHO's who had a hard-on for their newly beefed-up power and forced us locked up in our hotel rooms like we were lepers.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11056

                      Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                      Originally posted by comrade
                      Roffey just gave one of the worst crisis management interviews in footy history. Strong presidents are so important during these times and thank god we had Gordo at the helm in 2014.
                      Didn't hear the interview but the rusted-on celebrity Dees supporters likes Titus O'Reilly and Ralph Horowitz have absolutely teed off and want her gone today. Apparently she hasn't spoken to Petracca or any of his family since the injury - that is completely unforgivable and shows a lack of basic understanding of the role of footy club president (it is so much more than balance sheets and board meetings), let alone respect for your greatest asset and his family, at a time when his life (let alone career) was in jeopardy. Eddie cops a lot but he would have been giving Petracca panadols every 4 hours and tucking him up in bed every night from King's Birthday onwards if he was Dees president.

                      Petracca is your rolled gold jet/single biggest asset at your club, and he is a total pro on and off the field to boot. We're all giving him a bit of stick about Brand Petracca and the insta cooking stuff (it's a bit cringe), but he has clearly been woefully treated by the club, and from the very top down.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • Ozza
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6380

                        Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                        So, when should the red wine go in?

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15204

                          Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                          Originally posted by Ozza
                          So, when should the red wine go in?
                          After the meat has been browned.

                          Add the wine and then simmer down until a 1/3 remains.

                          Add your tomato based products (and milk) and let it simmer for as long as you want.

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                          • Ozza
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 6380

                            Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            After the meat has been browned.

                            Add the wine and then simmer down until a 1/3 remains.

                            Add your tomato based products (and milk) and let it simmer for as long as you want.
                            Thank you.

                            You see, this is what I come to WOOF for.

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                            • Ozza
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6380

                              Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                              Also all this doom and demise at Melbourne is really bringing me up. They deserve all of it.

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                              • Happy Days
                                Hall of Fame
                                • May 2008
                                • 10028

                                Re: It's all falling apart for the Dees

                                Tin foil hat time but I reckon this “brand Petracca” stuff is being planted by Melbourne to try and win the public opinion battle, and being given oxygen by journos because Petracca won’t talk to them.

                                I think he’s just super pissed about, you know, nearly dying.
                                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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