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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11717

    #31
    Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

    Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
    I am currently overseas on a trip and one of our companions is a bit Melbourne tragic.
    The message she is getting from fellow Demon supporters is that the current issues are somehow related to Lachie Hunter.

    Have we placed Lachie in the Melbourne camp to infiltrate and destroy as an undercover agent?
    Supposedly these issues have been there in some form or another since 2020 or earlier (when the president wanted to sack Goodwin) so if Hunter has played any role it's just been in making the existing wound fester a bit more.

    I do like the idea though
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11046

      #32
      Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

      Originally posted by W W Biscuit
      In terms of the Demon's star-studded list and their list management in general, I wouldn't want to forget that the current iteration of their team was built on some fairly preferential treatment over the years by the AFL, either through act or omission. Being allowed to keep high draft picks on the back of tanking (e.g., 2013), extremely generous compensations for departed players (think Scully, Frawley...), some very dodgy draft manoeuvring (Jack Viney), gifted a high-profile coach...

      North Melbourne are currently trying their best to imitate the Melbourne FC model. If, in a few years time, the Kangaroos have an almighty list that are winning premierships for fun, I will be similarly reserved in my praise for their achievements.
      No doubt about it, they had enormous assistance early doors in their list build as you have highlighted above. They did then start to nail their picks as well to be fair. All up, it makes their under-achievement since 2019 even more apparent.

      I can also see North following a similar trajectory, especially if they nail their picks for the next couple of years. They sure have had a fair old leg-up from City Hall.
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 18716

        #33
        Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

        Originally posted by hujsh
        Supposedly these issues have been there in some form or another since 2020 or earlier (when the president wanted to sack Goodwin) so if Hunter has played any role it's just been in making the existing wound fester a bit more.

        I do like the idea though
        Yes, you just to have to search Glenn Bartlett and you'll find all you need.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • ReLoad
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2009
          • 1426

          #34
          Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

          I say, terrible business ol’ chap. One simply doesn’t air one’s dirty laundry for all and sundry.

          It reminds me of the time the chateau la tour ‘63 was corked.

          Frightful business, I’m heading down to Sorrento for a few months til this all blows over.

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          • KT31
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jul 2008
            • 5454

            #35
            Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

            Originally posted by ReLoad
            I say, terrible business ol’ chap. One simply doesn’t air one’s dirty laundry for all and sundry.

            It reminds me of the time the chateau la tour ‘63 was corked.

            Frightful business, I’m heading down to Sorrento for a few months til this all blows over.
            Is it wrong that I read this in my head as Doctor Bombay?
            It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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            • Testekill
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 2327

              #36
              Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

              Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
              I am currently overseas on a trip and one of our companions is a bit Melbourne tragic.
              The message she is getting from fellow Demon supporters is that the current issues are somehow related to Lachie Hunter.

              Have we placed Lachie in the Melbourne camp to infiltrate and destroy as an undercover agent?
              The rot was there years ago considering that the president openly wanted to fire Goodwin.

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              • Twodogs
                Administrator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27645

                #37
                Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                I am currently overseas on a trip and one of our companions is a bit Melbourne tragic.
                The message she is getting from fellow Demon supporters is that the current issues are somehow related to Lachie Hunter.

                Have we placed Lachie in the Melbourne camp to infiltrate and destroy as an undercover agent?
                Lachie is like a cuckoo in the nest?
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • Twodogs
                  Administrator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27645

                  #38
                  Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                  Originally posted by W W Biscuit
                  In terms of the Demon's star-studded list and their list management in general, I wouldn't want to forget that the current iteration of their team was built on some fairly preferential treatment over the years by the AFL, either through act or omission. Being allowed to keep high draft picks on the back of tanking (e.g., 2013), extremely generous compensations for departed players (think Scully, Frawley...), some very dodgy draft manoeuvring (Jack Viney), gifted a high-profile coach...

                  North Melbourne are currently trying their best to imitate the Melbourne FC model. If, in a few years time, the Kangaroos have an almighty list that are winning premierships for fun, I will be similarly reserved in my praise for their achievements.
                  Bingo.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 43874

                    #39
                    Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                    So Pert and Goodwiin fronted SEN and talked about some of the troubles the club has faced mainly Oliver and Smith and even with May.
                    Pert said it was the most professional and strong culture he's been associated with in his 40 year AFL career.

                    It's a ballsy move to front the media but I sensed Pert and Goodwin were well scripted to answer the questions before they were asked.

                    Goodwin reconfirmed he doesn't take drugs and he's sick of the way this has constantly been speculated on.

                    Goodwin also said he has not spoken to Joel Smith since news of his positive test was released which seems strange to me if the professional culture is as strong as they were trying to sell.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18716

                      #40
                      Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      So Pert and Goodwiin fronted SEN and talked about some of the troubles the club has faced mainly Oliver and Smith and even with May.
                      Pert said it was the most professional and strong culture he's been associated with in his 40 year AFL career.

                      It's a ballsy move to front the media but I sensed Pert and Goodwin were well scripted to answer the questions before they were asked.

                      Goodwin reconfirmed he doesn't take drugs and he's sick of the way this has constantly been speculated on.

                      Goodwin also said he has not spoken to Joel Smith since news of his positive test was released which seems strange to me if the professional culture is as strong as they were trying to sell.
                      Pert is the ultimate baller. Complete gamer.

                      Smart move getting out on the front foot.

                      Goodwin was at the Crows and Dons during dubious times, then had a president sacked who wanted to call it out.

                      You don't have to be Einstein.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • Twodogs
                        Administrator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27645

                        #41
                        Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                        I see Oliver is saying he suffers from ADHD and it was an adverse reaction to the medication that caused him to fall over the night he ended up at Footscray Hospital.

                        ADHD is a real bastard and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. But I'm medicated for ADHD too and I've never passed out from the effects.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18716

                          #42
                          Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                          Originally posted by Twodogs
                          I see Oliver is saying he suffers from ADHD and it was an adverse reaction to the medication that caused him to fall over the night he ended up at Footscray Hospital.

                          ADHD is a real bastard and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. But I'm medicated for ADHD too and I've never passed out from the effects.
                          Would be a pretty low play to blame that if it wasn't true. Seems like something Melbourne would do.
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • Twodogs
                            Administrator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27645

                            #43
                            Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            Would be a pretty low play to blame that if it wasn't true. Seems like something Melbourne would do.
                            I have no doubt that Oliver probably does suffer from ADHD. His decision making and the problems he has all point to it, but the "my medication made me fall over and hit my head" story doesn't add up to me.
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • EasternWest
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 9896

                              #44
                              Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                              Originally posted by Twodogs
                              I have no doubt that Oliver probably does suffer from ADHD. His decision making and the problems he has all point to it, but the "my medication made me fall over and hit my head" story doesn't add up to me.
                              Yeah it stinks.

                              Like, I hope he's alright and if he has a problem he gets proper care, but it's not helpful to demonise actual medication like that.
                              "It's over. It's all over."

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                              • Grantysghost
                                Bouncing Strong
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 18716

                                #45
                                Re: Melbourne Watch 2023

                                Originally posted by Twodogs
                                I have no doubt that Oliver probably does suffer from ADHD. His decision making and the problems he has all point to it, but the "my medication made me fall over and hit my head" story doesn't add up to me.
                                It does make sufferers search for balance from experience.
                                Red Bull or Vodka or both?
                                BT COME BACK!​

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