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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18717

    #16
    Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

    Originally posted by azabob
    So is this the reason he wants him sacked?


    "Mr Setka said the union would not cooperate with the AFL to address any delays or cost overruns on league-related projects until Mr McBurney, who as Australian Building and Construction Commissioner initiated legal action that resulted in millions of dollars of penalties against the Construction Forestry and Maritime Employees Union, was sacked as the AFL umpires boss."
    We should get Setka onside for a union backed game. Dogs v Pies. Harness his madness.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • Happy Days
      Hall of Fame
      • May 2008
      • 10009

      #17
      Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

      So is this because the umpires suck? Before you ask of course I didn’t read the article.
      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 18717

        #18
        Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

        Originally posted by Happy Days
        So is this because the umpires suck? Before you ask of course I didn’t read the article.
        Because the unions dont like him from a previous role they want the afl to sack him or they'll delay projects.
        Extortion basically.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • EasternWest
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2009
          • 9917

          #19
          Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

          Originally posted by Sedat
          Unions are really no different to the big businesses/lobby groups/corporates from the top end of town with snouts in the trough gouging off govt largesse and tax concessions, all funded by the stupid taxpayer. Only difference is that they are dressed by Ed Hardy and not Giorgio Armani.
          Me and the boys are coming to have a friendly chat with you about this.

          Out of all the out there AFL content that could have emerged, this is certainly pretty out there WTF.
          "It's over. It's all over."

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 65591

            #20
            Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

            Originally posted by EasternWest
            Me and the boys are coming to have a friendly chat with you about this.

            Out of all the out there AFL content that could have emerged, this is certainly pretty out there WTF.
            No Unions and the workers are ****ed.
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            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21400

              #21
              Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

              Originally posted by azabob
              So is this the reason he wants him sacked?


              "Mr Setka said the union would not cooperate with the AFL to address any delays or cost overruns on league-related projects until Mr McBurney, who as Australian Building and Construction Commissioner initiated legal action that resulted in millions of dollars of penalties against the Construction Forestry and Maritime Employees Union, was sacked as the AFL umpires boss."
              Absolutely. McBurney took on a politically ideological role in the past and did the bidding of an anti-worker/ anti-union government. Now it's coming home to roost.

              Not saying it's right, but people keep receipts and the corporate class need to feel the consequences of that sometimes in order to keep some balance.

              BTW - I'm not a Setka supporter. He's an outdated blunt instrument for mine.
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11724

                #22
                Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                Originally posted by azabob
                So is this the reason he wants him sacked?


                "Mr Setka said the union would not cooperate with the AFL to address any delays or cost overruns on league-related projects until Mr McBurney, who as Australian Building and Construction Commissioner initiated legal action that resulted in millions of dollars of penalties against the Construction Forestry and Maritime Employees Union, was sacked as the AFL umpires boss."
                Originally posted by jeemak
                Absolutely. McBurney took on a politically ideological role in the past and did the bidding of an anti-worker/ anti-union government. Now it's coming home to roost.

                Not saying it's right, but people keep receipts and the corporate class need to feel the consequences of that sometimes in order to keep some balance.

                BTW - I'm not a Setka supporter. He's an outdated blunt instrument for mine.
                IDK I only saw the headline and initial comments here so I'm pretty sure he just thinks the umps aren't any good.
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65591

                  #23
                  Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                  Originally posted by hujsh
                  IDK I only saw the headline and initial comments here so I'm pretty sure he just thinks the umps aren't any good.
                  Not wrong there
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21400

                    #24
                    Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                    Originally posted by hujsh
                    IDK I only saw the headline and initial comments here so I'm pretty sure he just thinks the umps aren't any good.
                    I did see the headlines and thought that was his motivation and I was cool with it.
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11046

                      #25
                      Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                      Originally posted by jeemak
                      Absolutely. McBurney took on a politically ideological role in the past and did the bidding of an anti-worker/ anti-union government. Now it's coming home to roost.

                      Not saying it's right, but people keep receipts and the corporate class need to feel the consequences of that sometimes in order to keep some balance.

                      BTW - I'm not a Setka supporter. He's an outdated blunt instrument for mine.
                      I guess if you believe it constitutes the definition of 'balance' that holding a stop and go sign is worth a salary $180k a year. Ideology is a two-way street.

                      Not going to lie, I will enjoy seeing all those low-testosterone suits at AFEL House try to negotiate with someone from the rough end of town who has seen a bit and lived a colourful life, and plays for keeps.

                      I have no skin in the game for either side in this - they are both pretty loathsome in their own charming way. If anything, I actually have more of a grudging respect for the overt extortion perpetuated by Setka and the CFMEU in this instance than the daily covert extortion undertaken against all of us by our politicians in just about every facet of our lives.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • Eastdog
                        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 18210

                        #26
                        Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                        Originally posted by chef
                        What's an RDO?

                        Haha.



                        Rostered days off

                        A rostered day off (RDO) is a day in a roster period that an employee doesn't have to work.


                        Paid and unpaid RDOs

                        An employee's day off can be paid or unpaid, depending on how RDOs are set out in an award or registered agreement.

                        When RDOs are paid, it is because an employee has worked extra hours that add up over a set period of time and this is taken as an RDO.
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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21400

                          #27
                          Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          I guess if you believe it constitutes the definition of 'balance' that holding a stop and go sign is worth a salary $180k a year. Ideology is a two-way street.

                          Not going to lie, I will enjoy seeing all those the low-testosterone suits at AFEL House try to negotiate with someone from the rough end of town who has seen a bit and lived a colourful life.

                          I have no skin in the game for either side in this - they are both pretty loathsome in their own charming way. If anything, I actually have more of a grudging respect for such overt extortion perpetuated by someone like Setka and the CFMEU than the daily covert extortion undertaken against all of us by our politicians in just about every facet of our lives.
                          There's always silly extremes, but by balance I meant that corporate elites and political ideologues treat institutions/ supposedly objective bodies as their personal vehicles to further their own careers and agendas. And mostly get away with it, seamlessly moving onto the next thing like ****ing up AFL umpiring!

                          It's nice to see them squirm from time to time.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • angelopetraglia
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6675

                            #28
                            Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                            Originally posted by Eastdog
                            https://www.fairwork.gov.au/employme...tered-days-off


                            Rostered days off

                            A rostered day off (RDO) is a day in a roster period that an employee doesn't have to work.


                            Paid and unpaid RDOs

                            An employee's day off can be paid or unpaid, depending on how RDOs are set out in an award or registered agreement.

                            When RDOs are paid, it is because an employee has worked extra hours that add up over a set period of time and this is taken as an RDO.
                            CFMEU have 25 RDOs on their calendar this year. Also 11 Public Holidays and 20 days annual leave which we all have. That is 56 days where they don't need to work. So they work 204 days. They have 161 days off according to their award.

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                            • Sedat
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 11046

                              #29
                              Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                              Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                              CFMEU have 25 RDOs on their calendar this year. Also 11 Public Holidays and 20 days annual leave which we all have. That is 56 days where they don't need to work. So they work 204 days. They have 161 days off according to their award.
                              Not balanced enough, should be 182.5 work days and 182.5 days off
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                              • angelopetraglia
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 6675

                                #30
                                Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                                Originally posted by Sedat
                                Not balanced enough, should be 182.5 work days and 182.5 days off
                                Apologies. They also have a picnic day.

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