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  • hujsh
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    • Nov 2007
    • 11724

    #31
    Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

    Originally posted by Sedat
    I guess if you believe it constitutes the definition of 'balance' that holding a stop and go sign is worth a salary $180k a year. Ideology is a two-way street.
    120k a year to spend long days standing in all weather, copping abuse and dealing with dickheads driving dangerously. It's a real job. Probably more dangerous than being cop (even in a place like the US) going by the below article, assuming they count as highway maintenance workers. And 120k aint so much these days.
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    • hujsh
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      • Nov 2007
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      #32
      Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

      Originally posted by angelopetraglia
      CFMEU have 25 RDOs on their calendar this year. Also 11 Public Holidays and 20 days annual leave which we all have. That is 56 days where they don't need to work. So they work 204 days. They have 161 days off according to their award.
      We're all just jealous no one does the same for us.

      I'd take those 25 days off
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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 21400

        #33
        Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

        I wish I had an organisation advocating for me in my role and enforcing I work only 200 days a year! Instead I have to treat my work arrangements confidentially because apparently that's better for me and unions are actually bad for workers.
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • EasternWest
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2009
          • 9917

          #34
          Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

          Originally posted by hujsh
          We're all just jealous no one does the same for us.
          Well, some of us are.
          "It's over. It's all over."

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          • EasternWest
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Aug 2009
            • 9917

            #35
            Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

            Originally posted by jeemak
            I wish I had an organisation advocating for me in my role and enforcing I work only 200 days a year! Instead I have to treat my work arrangements confidentially because apparently that's better for me and unions are actually bad for workers.
            We all float down here, Georgie.
            "It's over. It's all over."

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            • chef
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2008
              • 14461

              #36
              Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

              Originally posted by Eastdog
              https://www.fairwork.gov.au/employme...tered-days-off


              Rostered days off

              A rostered day off (RDO) is a day in a roster period that an employee doesn't have to work.


              Paid and unpaid RDOs

              An employee's day off can be paid or unpaid, depending on how RDOs are set out in an award or registered agreement.

              When RDOs are paid, it is because an employee has worked extra hours that add up over a set period of time and this is taken as an RDO.
              Was tongue in cheek mate, something I've never had in 30 years in the hospitality industry.
              The curse is dead.

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              • angelopetraglia
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6675

                #37
                Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                Originally posted by hujsh
                We're all just jealous no one does the same for us.

                I'd take those 25 days off
                I'm more than happy to prove my own worth off the back of the value I add personally and negotiate my own deal. But understand this is different for everyone and I respect that. Everything in balance. Unions have their place

                I'm just not a fan of how the CFMEU has carried themselves over a number of years.

                One little story. Many, many, many years ago. I worked in a business that sponsored a publication that the CFMEU did. They asked a large increase to do the same thing the following year. It was an extreme rise. We decided not to do it. Within a single hour, the delivery vehicles of our company were banned from their sites. We could not enter!!!! We could not deliver products. We paid the "advertising feee" immediately. Vehicles were allowed on the site again. We just had to pay this "tax" for enternity and every year they were asking for more and more things and we just put it down as the CODB. (This is one tiny little story, imagine the other shenagians going on).

                This is less union and more mafia.

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18717

                  #38
                  Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                  I much prefer to advocate for myself. Humans and power; always turns to shit.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • angelopetraglia
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6675

                    #39
                    Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                    Originally posted by hujsh
                    120k a year to spend long days standing in all weather, copping abuse and dealing with dickheads driving dangerously. It's a real job. Probably more dangerous than being cop (even in a place like the US) going by the below article, assuming they count as highway maintenance workers. And 120k aint so much these days.
                    https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748...-united-states
                    Average weekly earnings in Australia is $98K per annum. So its a +20% increase on the average wage to do a low skilled job with minimal training required. Also, there are now electronic controlled portable boom gates that are now legislated in many places that allow the worker to be on the side of the road where they are safer and they control the boom remotely.

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11046

                      #40
                      Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                      Originally posted by hujsh
                      120k a year to spend long days standing in all weather, copping abuse and dealing with dickheads driving dangerously. It's a real job. Probably more dangerous than being cop (even in a place like the US) going by the below article, assuming they count as highway maintenance workers. And 120k aint so much these days.
                      https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748...-united-states
                      The average 15yo kid working fast food/stacking shelves at a supermarket similarly cops abuse and has to deal with dickheads (indoors to be fair) and is paid $12.04 an hour. Both examples are ridiculous extremes and both are anything but balanced IMO. I detest corporatism/globalism more than anything, much more than militant unionism (which I'm also no fan of, because ultimately we all pay for the largesse).

                      And the only reason $120k aint so much these days is a direct result of idiotic politicians and their lunatic hyper-inflationary policies designed specifically to hurt the people they are supposed to serve - politicians are the worst criminals/extorters in our society, they are just much better at hiding their sins.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 18717

                        #41
                        Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                        Originally posted by Sedat
                        The average 15yo kid working fast food/stacking shelves at a supermarket similarly cops abuse and has to deal with dickheads (indoors to be fair) and is paid $12.04 an hour. Both examples are ridiculous extremes and both are anything but balanced IMO. I detest corporatism/globalism more than anything, much more than militant unionism (which I'm also no fan of, because ultimately we all pay for the largesse).

                        And the only reason $120k aint so much these days is a direct result of idiotic politicians and their lunatic hyper-inflationary policies designed specifically to hurt the people they are supposed to serve - politicians are the worst criminals/extorters in our society, they are just much better at hiding their sins.
                        The current bloc and their Keynesian "big infrastructure spend" designed only to benefit the economy apparently.

                        Love the signs on the west gate "you'll save twenty minutes on your trip". Well I've already lost twenty thousand being stuck in your macro economic stasis so thanks a bunch!
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18717

                          #42
                          Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                          Originally posted by hujsh
                          We're all just jealous no one does the same for us.

                          I'd take those 25 days off
                          Hey hey i like my job! I'm ok with working, got nothing else to do
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 65591

                            #43
                            Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                            Wow this thread has turned into a shit show
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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11724

                              #44
                              Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                              Originally posted by Sedat
                              The average 15yo kid working fast food/stacking shelves at a supermarket similarly cops abuse and has to deal with dickheads (indoors to be fair) and is paid $12.04 an hour.
                              Probably less likely to get hit by a car.

                              Also kind of weird to use the 15 year old wage. The minimum is $23 an hour which is already shite (like 45k a year I think)

                              I personally will never begrudge anyone for earning what is essentially a middle class income for working a fulltime job. I would rather try to raise everyone else up than to push down those I consider less deserving. Especially when it's a role women can do since we love not paying well when it's 'womens work'

                              Originally posted by Grantysghost
                              I much prefer to advocate for myself. Humans and power; always turns to shit.
                              Good luck to you. For the vast majority of the workforce that is a fool's notion.
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                              • hujsh
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2007
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                                #45
                                Re: John Setka shirtfronts AFL over umpire boss Stephen McBurney

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Wow this thread has turned into a shit show
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