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  • Go_Dogs
    Hall of Fame
    • Jan 2007
    • 10209

    #76
    Re: Geelong

    It’s dodged and we don’t know the rules but everyone should do it too.
    Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44979

      #77
      Re: Geelong

      Was the position actually advertised is the bigger test and was a thorough interview process conducted?
      I don't think anyone genuinely sees this as anything other than a consultant type role
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • mighty_west
        Coaching Staff
        • Feb 2008
        • 3465

        #78
        Re: Geelong

        I wonder if Butters would like a position with Mission Foods for the next few years as a young role model to help bring the brand out to the younger generation, make a few appearances each year for a nice little earner on the side?

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        • macca
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2007
          • 2380

          #79
          Re: Geelong

          Originally posted by jeemak
          The ****en guy has been appointed Chief of Leadership and Performance! That's an entire job for any sort of business that's serious enough to have that as a job!

          Usually commanding ~$200K-~$350K plus additionals etc.! Depending on the size of the business.

          How can he do that and his coaching job? Seriously!!!!

          If it's a serious position and not a piss take, then it's too much for an AFL senior coach to take on as a second gig! If it's not a serious position, it's obviously a piss take!

          AFEL, come on! Get a scalp in a captive market while you can in order to pretend you're a serious organisation. Punish the hubris, shield your own!
          Yep, that was my first thought, "Chief.... " position will command salaries like that.
          AEFL what a joke.

          Seriously, might as well just put anything "outside of footy" roles and disregard from salary cap.

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          • azabob
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 15401

            #80
            Re: Geelong

            The AFL is supposedly looking into the Chris Scott job with Morris Finance.
            More of an In Bruges guy?

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #81
              Re: Geelong

              Originally posted by azabob
              The AFL is supposedly looking into the Chris Scott job with Morris Finance.
              I am Jack’s complete skeptical reply.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • chef
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 14688

                #82
                Re: Geelong

                The curse is dead.

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44979

                  #83
                  Re: Geelong

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  The AFL is supposedly looking into the Chris Scott job with Morris Finance.
                  Well according to Chris Scott last week, they've already signed off on it.

                  Perhaps they're now having 'a closer look at it' because it's such a poor look for the competition. They'll still sign off on it though.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 18092

                    #84
                    Re: Geelong

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    Well according to Chris Scott last week, they've already signed off on it.

                    Perhaps they're now having 'a closer look at it' because it's such a poor look for the competition. They'll still sign off on it though.
                    Yeah, they?ll be getting a private slap along the lines of ?do it, but don?t make it so obvious next time?.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21982

                      #85
                      Re: Geelong

                      Not sure how else the AFL will fill the time in between now and 20 November? May as well engage in an exercise of window dressing that will ultimately determine the Cats are amazing, run their club so well, and attract sponsors prepared to offer C-level leadership roles to senior coaches for nothing in return.

                      By and by that's just on top of being able to attract a player on a huge third party deal with a major sponsor and Geelong sycophant/ supporter on a reasonable playing contract (no chance his hiring was a long term plan to avoid AFL scrutiny - the pliable media already on record as suggesting it was just a coincidence Baglenka was a Cotton On marquee product before the trade).

                      I'd like nothing more than for these mollycoddled arseholes to cop a hit that triggers a decent look at their player arrangements since the mid-2000s. But it ain't gonna happen.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • Axe Man
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 11288

                        #86
                        Re: Geelong

                        AFL begins inquiry into Chris Scott’s new role with Morris Finance

                        The AFL has asked Geelong to clarify coach Chris Scott’s new position with club sponsor Morris Finance and how it fits within the soft cap.

                        Morris Finance announced Scott in a new role of chief of leadership and performance last week and the AFL has made inquiries with the Cats in recent days about the nature of the job.

                        The questions to the Cats centre around Scott’s payment and whether the new job differs from past arrangements between the sponsor and Geelong.

                        The Morris Finance logo has sat on Scott’s club polo in recent years as the official Geelong coaches sponsor and the company has sponsored the Cats for 14 years.

                        Morris Finance was also retired forward Tom Hawkins’ long-term player sponsor.

                        Geelong has been contacted for comment about the AFL’s inquiry.

                        The Cats will be given time to respond to questions from the league.

                        All third-party deals within the AFL must be cleared by the league to ensure they don’t flout the soft cap rules, in which clubs can only pay football staff within the cap, which will sit at $7.68m next season.

                        It is not unusual for league HQ to question clubs about arrangements like Scott’s new gig.

                        When asked last week about whether the job fit within league rules, Scott told Channel 7 the question was “one that should be directed at the AFL. They will give you a clearer answer.”

                        “You obviously wouldn’t go into something unless you were crystal clear on how it is to work,” the coach said.

                        Geelong CEO Steve Hocking said the club welcomed the “exciting announcement” in a press release from Morris Finance.

                        “It (the job) underscores the enduring relationship between Geelong Football Club and Morris, which has only deepened in the past 14 years,” Hocking said.

                        “Morris has been more than a sponsor; they have been an integral part of our club’s journey, supporting our coaches and players. We look forward to many more years of collaboration and shared achievements.”

                        Morris Finance managing director Nathan Murray said the company had “stood by Chris and the Cats through their triumphs and challenges, and we are excited to continue this journey with Chris in his new role”.

                        Morris’ website claims “we specialise in finance, investment and leasing”.

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                        • bulldogsthru&thru
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • May 2011
                          • 7900

                          #87
                          Re: Geelong

                          I'm sure they have been more than a sponsor and have indeed played an integral role in the clubs journey supporting coaches and players.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44979

                            #88
                            Re: Geelong

                            If the AFL gives this the green light then a lot of coaches will be able to start similar set-ups with club sponsors.
                            They might as well remove the coaches salary from the soft cap or completely remove the soft cap restrictions.

                            I wonder if enough clubs will apply pressure on the AFL to review it or look at it as an opportunity to work around the system.
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • comrade
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 18092

                              #89
                              Re: Geelong

                              So if the AFL signs off on all third party deals, why are they asking for clarity on a deal that has already been announced? The whole thing is a rort and a shit show.
                              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                              • chef
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 14688

                                #90
                                Re: Geelong

                                Did Bevo get paid when he did work with Vic Uni after the flag?
                                The curse is dead.

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