The Clarke Experiment, Private Schools and Perceptions.

[EasternWest]

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For now. I’m realising that I don’t have whatever it is in me that makes people like objectively shit stuff like LinkedIn, long distance running or networking so I’m probably not gonna last much longer.

Come to the dark side.

[chef]

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Is it the private schools just poaching all the best talent rather developing?

My parents spent 50k a year on my private school education and I still ended up in hospitalty(like I told them I would but they wouldn't let me drop out). Sucked in for them.

[The Underdog]

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Is it tge private schools just placing all the best talent rather developing?

My parents spent 50k a year on my private school education and I still ended up in hospitalty(like I told them I would but they wouldn't let me drop out). Sucked in for them.

My eldest’s year 11 class have been offered the chance to do their RSA cert through the school which strikes me as both odd and pragmatic.

[Go_Dogs]

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For now. I?m realising that I don?t have whatever it is in me that makes people like objectively shit stuff like LinkedIn, long distance running or networking so I?m probably not gonna last much longer.

Get out while you can man.

[GVGjr]

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Is it the private schools just poaching all the best talent rather developing?

My parents spent 50k a year on my private school education and I still ended up in hospitalty(like I told them I would but they wouldn't let me drop out). Sucked in for them.

Thats a massive outlay isn't it? 50K spent is 100K earned. Was that a family thing ie they went to PS themselves?
A mate of mine was a politicians son so the 4 kids all went to PS. Because his older brother sent his two children to PS my mate then felt compelled to send his 3 children all to private schools and it nearly broke him.
The daughter went into the real estate business, the oldest son is a sparky and the youngest boy after 3 years of working in distribution centres as a fork lift driver is now a policeman. Their Private School education and certificates didn't really do that much for them in their career choices.

[bulldogtragic]

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Is it the private schools just poaching all the best talent rather developing?

My parents spent 50k a year on my private school education and I still ended up in hospitalty(like I told them I would but they wouldn't let me drop out). Sucked in for them.

Definitely a thing. When I was in Bendigo a certain ex-player of ours nephews were given scholarships at Geelong boarding schools. They weren’t in the end even close to draft level. But got a free education for being likely to improve their new schools in the APS. During those years I’d hear stories about other players/kids playing one position at the Falcons and a different position for their schools and basically stuffing them before they got started. But I suppose they got a heap of free schooling and benefits of that. I wonder if there was another way of doing it what the kids would choose and parents would push:

A) a free good education
B) a better chance to become an AFEL player

[mjp]

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Definitely a thing....

A) a free good education
B) a better chance to become an AFEL player

Nathan O'Driscoll: Northam High
(Two Years Later)
Aiden O'Driscoll: Wesley College Scholarship

It is 100% a thing and becoming more prevalent.

[bulldogtragic]

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Nathan O'Driscoll: Northam High
(Two Years Later)
Aiden O'Driscoll: Wesley College Scholarship

It is 100% a thing and becoming more prevalent.

Being ignorant to finer points here. Why is it in the interest of these private schools to offer free education to aspiring fringe footballers, thereby increasing the costs for other students (assuming the schools don’t want to sacrifice profit) just to win a shield or bragging rights?

Is it simply just rich school bragging rights? How many hundreds of thousands of dollars do they waive each year just for this I wonder.

And is it common for them to ignore the players development, in say playing them in roles against their best interests or the interests of their state league teams? Is there any coordination between the school coaches and state league coaches to give the kids a coherent development plan and ability to play and learn the best role for them to make it and not chase some school wins?

[jeemak]

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Being ignorant to finer points here. Why is it in the interest of these private schools to offer free education to aspiring fringe footballers, thereby increasing the costs for other students (assuming the schools don’t want to sacrifice profit) just to win a shield or bragging rights?

Is it simply just rich school bragging rights? How many hundreds of thousands of dollars do they waive each year just for this I wonder.

And is it common for them to ignore the players development, in say playing them in roles against their best interests or the interests of their state league teams? Is there any coordination between the school coaches and state league coaches to give the kids a coherent development plan and ability to play and learn the best role for them to make it and not chase some school wins?

Competition for students. They need volume of students to build a credible program that attracts other talented students, over what other schools can.

Federal funding allocations also encourage scholarships. Have a good track record of delivering full or partial scholarships and you have a better time in securing funding.

None of it's altruistic, and if there was another hobby horse I'd like Sedat to ride it'd be this one. He'd have a field day after a rudimentary level of research on the topic.

[FrediKanoute]

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Being ignorant to finer points here. Why is it in the interest of these private schools to offer free education to aspiring fringe footballers, thereby increasing the costs for other students (assuming the schools don’t want to sacrifice profit) just to win a shield or bragging rights?

Is it simply just rich school bragging rights? How many hundreds of thousands of dollars do they waive each year just for this I wonder.

And is it common for them to ignore the players development, in say playing them in roles against their best interests or the interests of their state league teams? Is there any coordination between the school coaches and state league coaches to give the kids a coherent development plan and ability to play and learn the best role for them to make it and not chase some school wins?

It is partially self advertisng. Send your son here, Scott Pnedlebury went here and Rocket Eads is our coach. They are effectively saying they are pathways to the AFL and a good education.

My main beef is that e used pick 21 on what is ultimately a falled player and who else e could have drafted around that number.

[Sedat]

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Competition for students. They need volume of students to build a credible program that attracts other talented students, over what other schools can.

Federal funding allocations also encourage scholarships. Have a good track record of delivering full or partial scholarships and you have a better time in securing funding.

None of it's altruistic, and if there was another hobby horse I'd like Sedat to ride it'd be this one. He'd have a field day after a rudimentary level of research on the topic.

Just another Ponzi scheme - some way or another, ultimately the taxpayer will foot the bill

[Axe Man]

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Down Gippsland way I believe quite a few kids end up getting scholarships to APS schools and enter the AFL system that way. Pleasingly there also seems to be another path through Lowanna College in Newborough. It's a government school with a sports academy (not just AFL). It has a good reputation and kids are being drafted from there.

[Axe Man]

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My main beef is that e used pick 21 on what is ultimately a falled player and who else e could have drafted around that number.

Most of the other picks around Clarke (24) haven't been particularly impressive to date. In fact Vickery (27) and Burgiel (29) were also delisted and Konstanty (20) was likely to be before he was thrown into the Parker trade. Perhaps it was just a weak draft?