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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

    Wayne Brittains comments support my argument, and even goes as far as to cover off the heredity and environment analogy I made with Chris Grant.

    "With Fev it was not going to make any difference," Brittain said yesterday. "Early days when they are young there is no doubt their upbringing can be blamed for how they are.

    "But eventually you have to take responsibility for yourself.

    "He was never able to do that. He still thinks he is bulletproof, a big kid who can get away with anything. Life just does not go that way. You have to have a few morals you are supposed to live by. He struggles with that."



    Your Honour, permission to approach the bench.


    I rest my case

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    • Missing Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8501

      Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

      Originally posted by DoggyStyle
      "He was never able to do that. He still thinks he is bulletproof, a big kid who can get away with anything. Life just does not go that way. You have to have a few morals you are supposed to live by. He struggles with that."
      Why do you think that Fev still thinks he's bulletproof.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

        Originally posted by aker39
        Why do you think that Fev still thinks he's bulletproof.
        I don't necessarily, those comments are Wayne Brittains not mine.

        I do however believe that Fev cannot distinguish between real life and that of the "Bubble" that AFL stars all live in. I guess this is akin to thinking that he may be bulletproof

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        • Topdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7471

          Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

          Originally posted by DoggyStyle
          Wayne Brittains comments support my argument, and even goes as far as to cover off the heredity and environment analogy I made with Chris Grant.

          "With Fev it was not going to make any difference," Brittain said yesterday. "Early days when they are young there is no doubt their upbringing can be blamed for how they are.

          "But eventually you have to take responsibility for yourself.

          "He was never able to do that. He still thinks he is bulletproof, a big kid who can get away with anything. Life just does not go that way. You have to have a few morals you are supposed to live by. He struggles with that."

          Your Honour, permission to approach the bench.

          I rest my case
          Of course you need to have a few morals and also need to grow up. No one in here has said Fev is faultless.

          Actually lets back right up here. What exactly is "your argument"??

          Brittain tried to do the right thing and was overthrown by a club who loved Fev and contributed to his bulletproof attitude. How can you not see that?

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          • Topdog
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 7471

            Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

            Originally posted by DoggyStyle
            I do however believe that Fev cannot distinguish between real life and that of the "Bubble" that AFL stars all live in. I guess this is akin to thinking that he may is bullet proof
            And do you think that being properly disciplined can help in such situations?

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            • Missing Dog
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8501

              Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

              Originally posted by DoggyStyle
              I don't necessarily, those comments are Wayne Brittains not mine.
              No, they are not your words, but you rest your case based on those words.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

                Originally posted by Topdog

                Actually lets back right up here. What exactly is "your argument"??

                My initially argument was directed at Chops who suggested that the AFL had some accountability for Fevola behaviour and or situation.

                I believe they do not, and the remainder of other posts (except for where you and I got off track) were simply my posturings on the topic.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

                  Originally posted by Topdog
                  And do you think that being properly disciplined can help in such situations?
                  Yes - but the Fevs own intrinsic set of values combined with the AFL "bubble" he lives in are always going to conspire against him.

                  Whereas conversely, someone of Chris Grant character under the same circumstance and repercussions would have been able to straighten up.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

                    Originally posted by aker39
                    No, they are not your words, but you rest your case based on those words.
                    If you have read my other posts in this thread, then yes your Honour, I do.

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

                      Originally posted by aker39
                      Why do you think that Fev still thinks he's bulletproof.
                      Brendan had Club minders who escorted him home on NYE , it was his decision to then leave home , his decision to continue to consume alcohol , his decision to be aggressive and verbally threaten the Police who approached him

                      This was a deliberate act of defiance against his Club, he was told to stay in Brisbane for NYE , he was told he would have minders ,and he was escorted home about 12.30.

                      He would have had a clear understanding that he would be required to behave himself , the fact that he was under the influence of alcohol and aggressive towards Police at 4.30am demonstrates a blatant disregard for his employer and the Behavioral Guidelines which he was expected to abide by

                      The AFL would not be making a scapegoat or an example of Brendan by de-listing him, he has a documented history of bringing the game into disrepute

                      .

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                      • Sockeye Salmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6365

                        Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

                        Originally posted by Topdog
                        To put it in an easier fashion, Wayne Britton wanted to sack Fev. Carlton sacked Britton.
                        Ken Judge wanted to sack Michael Gardiner because he thought Gardiner was a bad influence on Ben Cousins.

                        Trevor Nesbitt sacked Ken Judge instead.

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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14474

                          Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

                          Originally posted by West-Dog
                          Brendan had Club minders who escorted him home on NYE , it was his decision to then leave home , his decision to continue to consume alcohol , his decision to be aggressive and verbally threaten the Police who approached him

                          This was a deliberate act of defiance against his Club, he was told to stay in Brisbane for NYE , he was told he would have minders ,and he was escorted home about 12.30.

                          He would have had a clear understanding that he would be required to behave himself , the fact that he was under the influence of alcohol and aggressive towards Police at 4.30am demonstrates a blatant disregard for his employer and the Behavioral Guidelines which he was expected to abide by

                          The AFL would not be making a scapegoat or an example of Brendan by de-listing him, he has a documented history of bringing the game into disrepute

                          .
                          I agree he is 27? a father, someone under a microscope but still acts like an idiot, he is totally to blame now.
                          The lions have no blame in this but to make the mistake of believing whatever story his manager told them when he was looking for another club.
                          The major problem the lions have is not having to pay out but to still have his wage included in the salary cap.
                          Its time the AFL put its foot down and kicked him out of the AFL allowing the lions to get the wage they were paying allowed in the salary cap again.
                          The Lions in my opinion were trying to give a bloke with great abillity in footy another chance but alas Fev is a complete nuff nuff.
                          Bring back the biff

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

                            Originally posted by West-Dog
                            Brendan had Club minders who escorted him home on NYE , it was his decision to then leave home , his decision to continue to consume alcohol , his decision to be aggressive and verbally threaten the Police who approached him

                            This was a deliberate act of defiance against his Club, he was told to stay in Brisbane for NYE , he was told he would have minders ,and he was escorted home about 12.30.

                            He would have had a clear understanding that he would be required to behave himself , the fact that he was under the influence of alcohol and aggressive towards Police at 4.30am demonstrates a blatant disregard for his employer and the Behavioral Guidelines which he was expected to abide by

                            The AFL would not be making a scapegoat or an example of Brendan by de-listing him, he has a documented history of bringing the game into disrepute

                            .
                            I don't understand if they didn't want Fev to go out and get drunk then why did Brisbane make it an easy option for him. The slipping his minders excuse is BS, he isn't James Bond. They have been trying since the EOS to get any excuse to delist and not pay him out.

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                            • ledge
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 14474

                              Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

                              Originally posted by Chops
                              I don't understand if they didn't want Fev to go out and get drunk then why did Brisbane make it an easy option for him. The slipping his minders excuse is BS, he isn't James Bond. They have been trying since the EOS to get any excuse to delist and not pay him out.
                              And HE is doing his best to be sacked!
                              Bring back the biff

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                              • Twodogs
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 27664

                                Re: Fevola faces axe from Lions

                                Originally posted by ledge
                                I agree he is 27?


                                Fev is 29 and will be 30 in two weeks.
                                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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