Ricky Nixon joins the Conga line

[LostDoggy]

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Just explain to me all the wrongs she's had done to her?

Might not be legally wrong but I believe there are plenty things wrong in taking advantage of 16yo when you are older and in a position of power.
You think this is all one way(she wants fame), she is obviously an attractive girl and it wasn't that painful for Sam Gilbert at the time.

[The Adelaide Connection]

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I'm not overlooking that at all, it's the one and only reason any of this has gained any traction at all. You only need to see her interviewed or her YouTube videos to realise how unreliable her testimony is, but in this day and age where saying NO to a teenager is akin to international war crimes, people were happy to accept every claim as gospel.

Well god help us in the future where women scorned also now have a consequence free environment to operate in so long as they squeeze it all in before they hit their 18th birthday.

I'm not absolving her of responsibility, just highlighting part of the reason she has reacted so irrationally is probably because she is so young and obviously lacks the maturity/skills to deal with it better. I have seen one of her YouTube videos and this really just gives extra weight to that argument.

You may not have overlooked that she was 16, maybe a poor choice of words, but I don't think your opinions in the first post properly acknowledged it. I totally agree that she needs to face consequences for her actions and it also frustrates me to no end that the contrast between consequences in the eyes of the law goes from 0 to 100 when someone goes from 17 to 18. But let's face it, it isn't just 17 year olds that dodge punishment especially in the football world.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Sorry, but did she admit that the pregnancy, and miscarriage/s were a complete lie?

[Greystache]

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Might not be legally wrong but I believe there are plenty things wrong in taking advantage of 16yo when you are older and in a position of power.
You think this is all one way(she wants fame), she is obviously an attractive girl and it wasn't that painful for Sam Gilbert at the time.

Her latest version of the truth acknowledges Gilbert was under the belief she was 19. He's 23 and meets a 19 year old who he thinks is attractive and is clearly pretty liberal we her sexuality, why would he say no.

[Ghost Dog]

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No mention of her parents and their responsibility?
IF she is so young and immature, where the heck are they?

[Desipura]

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No mention of her parents and their responsibility?
IF she is so young and immature, where the heck are they?

In Frankston

[Bornadog]

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Her latest version of the truth acknowledges Gilbert was under the belief she was 19. He's 23 and meets a 19 year old who he thinks is attractive and is clearly pretty liberal we her sexuality, why would he say no.

Well basically he is a dumb ass. He should have made sure. There is a massive difference between a 16 year old and 19 year old.

By the way Greystache, reading all your posts, you are sticking up for the Saints players and club yet can't acknowledge that this girl is a child only. Yes she did the wrong thing by lying etc etc, but we are talking here about a 16/17 year old, versus so called mature men. That is all most posters are saying, yet you won't conceed that the players and club did do something wrong in the way they treated her and you continue to have a go at this girl.

Wait till you have a teenage daughter, and see what happens with her behaviour; they are certainly a different beast. (I have a 17 year old daughter).

[LostDoggy]

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Her latest version of the truth acknowledges Gilbert was under the belief she was 19. He's 23 and meets a 19 year old who he thinks is attractive and is clearly pretty liberal we her sexuality, why would he say no.

From what I have seen she looks younger than 19. Gilbert was very silly to think otherwise, by the sounds of her she wouldn't have acted like a 19yo. Did he have doubts? There are also plenty of fish in the sea as a footballer.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Yes, last night on 60 minutes

That's pretty hard to forgive.
What a sordid mess.

[Missing Dog]

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Her latest version of the truth acknowledges Gilbert was under the belief she was 19. He's 23 and meets a 19 year old who he thinks is attractive and is clearly pretty liberal we her sexuality, why would he say no.

This sounds great in theory besinde the fact that they first met at a HIGH school football clinic sorry while she may be attractive she was only 16 as a man he has a responsibility to himself and as for Ricky Nixon well enough said!!!!

[Greystache]

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Well basically he is a dumb ass. He should have made sure. There is a massive difference between a 16 year old and 19 year old.

By the way Greystache, reading all your posts, you are sticking up for the Saints players and club yet can't acknowledge that this girl is a child only. Yes she did the wrong thing by lying etc etc, but we are talking here about a 16/17 year old, versus so called mature men. That is all most posters are saying, yet you won't conceed that the players and club did do something wrong in the way they treated her and you continue to have a go at this girl.

Wait till you have a teenage daughter, and see what happens with her behaviour; they are certainly a different beast. (I have a 17 year old daughter).

It's not that I side with the St Kilda players, I can't stand St Kilda (the club, their players, and their supporters), I just think it's disgraceful that someone, 17 years old or not, can be allowed to publicly tear apart the lives of people basically without consequence. This case will be the start of a long list of incidents like this IMO. If she's a child then treat her like a child, realise she's likely to be either lying or at the least exaggerating her claims and do some investigations first, but no, in the absurd society we currently live in she's not only been allowed to carry out this publicly, but actually has been assisted by people running to their own agenda- whether that be anti-AFL, to sell more papers, to gets their name in the headlines, or because they hate men in general, when it was so obvious her claims were lies. The media should have done some investigation into her pregnancy claims, and when they realised they were false (which was easy enough considering just how many holes there were in her story), they should have steered her back towards her family and the AFL for counseling for her obvious psychological issues rather than seeing it as an opportunity to mud rake.

The St Kilda players treated her like a footy slut, she acted like one, and they obliged. They thought she was 19, as I've said before it's not as easy as some think to find out if you're being lied to or not (my guess is she was masquerading as her sister who looks similar and was no doubt assisting her). The question is would it have been wrong if she was? There's literally thousands of girls who's highlight of their teenage years was shagging a group of AFL players, and there's probably just as many who feel they were used and abused by the same people. The footy player chaser is usually using the footballer for the notoriety, the footballer is using the girl for easy sex, who's the victim?

If they knew she was 16 then their behaviour is indefensible, she says they didn't (at least this week) so I don't hold them to blame. I blame the media first, her second, Sam Gilbert a distant third.

[Greystache]

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This sounds great in theory besinde the fact that they first met at a HIGH school football clinic sorry while she may be attractive she was only 16 as a man he has a responsibility to himself and as for Ricky Nixon well enough said!!!!

She's now said they didn't know her from the clinic, whatever that's worth.

From what I have seen she looks younger than 19. Gilbert was very silly to think otherwise, by the sounds of her she wouldn't have acted like a 19yo. Did he have doubts? There are also plenty of fish in the sea as a footballer.

Fair enough, I accept that.

[Greystache]

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Do we agree on something?

[Before I Die]

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It's not that I side with the St Kilda players, I can't stand St Kilda (the club, their players, and their supporters), I just think it's disgraceful that someone, 17 years old or not, can be allowed to publicly tear apart the lives of people basically without consequence. This case will be the start of a long list of incidents like this IMO. If she's a child then treat her like a child, realise she's likely to be either lying or at the least exaggerating her claims and do some investigations first, but no, in the absurd society we currently live in she's not only been allowed to carry out this publicly, but actually has been assisted by people running to their own agenda- whether that be anti-AFL, to sell more papers, to gets their name in the headlines, or because they hate men in general, when it was so obvious her claims were lies. The media should have done some investigation into her pregnancy claims, and when they realised they were false (which was easy enough considering just how many holes there were in her story), they should have steered her back towards her family and the AFL for counseling for her obvious psychological issues rather than seeing it as an opportunity to mud rake.

The St Kilda players treated her like a footy slut, she acted like one, and they obliged. They thought she was 19, as I've said before it's not as easy as some think to find out if you're being lied to or not (my guess is she was masquerading as her sister who looks similar and was no doubt assisting her). The question is would it have been wrong if she was? There's literally thousands of girls who's highlight of their teenage years was shagging a group of AFL players, and there's probably just as many who feel they were used and abused by the same people. The footy player chaser is usually using the footballer for the notoriety, the footballer is using the girl for easy sex, who's the victim?

If they knew she was 16 then their behaviour is indefensible, she says they didn't (at least this week) so I don't hold them to blame. I blame the media first, her second, Sam Gilbert a distant third.

Certainly no-one is applauding the girl. She clearly has behavioural and maturity issues. However, I believe the initial response of the St Kilda footbal club was completely inapprorpiate given her age was known at that point. The problem was that St Kilda knew it had more to hide so went on the offensive.

Now their name is mud (as is hers) and they are left with the unresolved questions of why the photos were on Gilbert's PC and what is Riewoldt hiding with his clearly false explanation of how they were taken.

As for Nixon, he deserves whatever he gets plus more. It wasn't illegal for him to have 'alleged' sex with her, but it was morally bankrupt. His credibility as a reliable witness is currently lower than hers and he doesn't have youth and immaturity as an excuse.

[Ghost Dog]

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In Frankston

HAHA Desi you are the master of understatement. love it.