Nathan Bock betting investigation

[LostDoggy]

Re: Nathan Bock betting investigation

I understand that Bocky (and Maxwell) were bloody stupid in the sense that players had been warned not to share 'sensitive information' that could lead to betting irregularities, and they deserve their fines for being stupid, but...

I don't like how footy being (over)run by the gambling industry means that that the needs of the betting industry dictates to players what they can and cannot say to people. If there was no betting on games, Maxwell and Bock can bloody well tell their wives where they're lining up on the weekend, but because people are allowed to bet on this crap, they can't mention that most innocent of facts? (Shaw's was different because he actually bet himself, so I'm leaving his case out of my point.) I don't bet, but I'm morally indifferent to the average 'who wins, who loses' punt, but exotic bets that are susceptible to insider information should simply be banned, rather than being an imposition on what players (and coaches and medical staff and trainers and runners) can or cannot say to other people.

I'm sick of how footy has become, like everything else, a total slave to where the money comes from, and dirty money in a lot of these cases (in the sense that it's an industry that preys on addicts). The only reason the AFL 'investigates' this as seriously as it does (as compared to salary cap breaches or Scully's dad getting a cushy gig with GWS) is because the betting agencies lose money on this crap so crack the whip. I mean, they pretend it's about 'integrity' or some shit, but we're not that stupid are we.

[Murphy'sLore]

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I don't like how footy being (over)run by the gambling industry means that that the needs of the betting industry dictates to players what they can and cannot say to people.

I couldn't agree more. It is just unreasonable to expect players and employees of the clubs to refrain from discussing any aspect of tactics -- basically, chatting about what they do at work, to their nearest and dearest -- on the off chance that some mug will use that information to lay an exotic bet. The rest of us get to blow off steam and just gossip about our workplaces at home, why deny the poor players that right? It's not healthy and it's not fair.

[Missing-Dog]

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Its just stupid! I wonder if I put $100 on bock to kick the first goal randomly and won would they come knocking my door down and taking what would have been $10,100 off me? I would start knocking heads in aswell fcuk that Its soo unfair to players and punters.

A player plays in the back line there whole life and then gets told they are starting the first 5min of a game up forward for what ever reason, im sure they would love to tell there wife, dad ect that they are starting forward and that they might get a chance to kick a goal. I mean isnt the point of the game to kcik a goal? Maybe they should follow every player around with a camera aswell incase something is said and an exotic bet is put on. Fcuk them and there sportsbet adds every 2min.

Sorry had to vent my frustration yuo may continue on.

[Ghost Dog]

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Well, understand the all round frustration, but look at what's happened in cricket?

[westdog54]

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I don't like how footy being (over)run by the gambling industry means that that the needs of the betting industry dictates to players what they can and cannot say to people. If there was no betting on games, Maxwell and Bock can bloody well tell their wives where they're lining up on the weekend, but because people are allowed to bet on this crap, they can't mention that most innocent of facts? (Shaw's was different because he actually bet himself, so I'm leaving his case out of my point.) I don't bet, but I'm morally indifferent to the average 'who wins, who loses' punt, but exotic bets that are susceptible to insider information should simply be banned, rather than being an imposition on what players (and coaches and medical staff and trainers and runners) can or cannot say to other people.

In fairness, the AFL don't have control over what people can and can't bet on. The AFL could end every kind of agreement/partnership/call it what you will with bookmakers and it wouldn't make an iota of difference to how much was wagered on football.

With the AFL working with bookmakers then there's at least some accountability over what people do, rather than the free for all would result otherwise. Unless a government were to make that sort of betting illegal the AFL needs to run with an imperfect solution.

The Pakistan spot-fixing scandal is an extreme example, but its what can happen when there's little to no overside.

[Topdog]

Re: Nathan Bock betting investigation

In fairness, the AFL don't have control over what people can and can't bet on. The AFL could end every kind of agreement/partnership/call it what you will with bookmakers and it wouldn't make an iota of difference to how much was wagered on football.

Rugby League got some exotics banned.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Its just stupid! I wonder if I put $100 on bock to kick the first goal randomly and won would they come knocking my door down and taking what would have been $10,100 off me? I would start knocking heads in aswell fcuk that Its soo unfair to players and punters.

A player plays in the back line there whole life and then gets told they are starting the first 5min of a game up forward for what ever reason, im sure they would love to tell there wife, dad ect that they are starting forward and that they might get a chance to kick a goal. I mean isnt the point of the game to kcik a goal? Maybe they should follow every player around with a camera aswell incase something is said and an exotic bet is put on. Fcuk them and there sportsbet adds every 2min.

Sorry had to vent my frustration yuo may continue on.

Here Here. Screw the betting agencies. I think the AFL should just say if it hurts too much stop offering ridiculous exotic bets.