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  • Scraggers
    Premiership Moderator
    • Jun 2008
    • 3571

    AFL scraps priority pick

    AFL scraps priority pick

    THE AFL has scrapped controversial priority draft picks, effective immediately.

    The league will develop a "much stricter criteria" to help struggling clubs.

    Under the priority pick system, clubs were handed extra selections at the top end of the draft for finishing with four or fewer wins in a season.

    Nick Riewoldt (2000), Luke Hodge (2001), Adam Cooney (2003), Brett Deledio (2004), Marc Murphy (2005) and Dale Thomas (2005) were all recruited with priority picks.

    Last year West Coast jumped up the ladder with the assistance of young forward Jack Darling, who was selected with a priority draft selection.

    The system opened up the competition to talk of tanking - clubs deliberately losing matches to gain access to extra early draft picks.

    The AFL has steadfastly denied tanking exists and made no mention of it in today's announcement.


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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #2
    Re: AFL scraps priority pick

    Well, it's too late isn't it -- half the teams in the comp have already had access to one (or more), so it's already a patently uneven comp for the next 10 years at least (teams who got PPs in the last few years will keep the advantage with no one else able to access the same advantage going forward.. good work if you can get it), unless the AFL are going to impose some sort of retrospective action to even out the unfairness of bringing a patently ridiculous rule in one year and then scraping it 10 years later when all the cheats have already gotten their hands on the advantage.

    Better yet, admit tanking exists and punish offenders, but I may as well put wings on a ham and throw it off a high roof than expect that would ever happen.

    (ps. The change in the rule without any retrospective corrective measure actually hurts the honest, successful clubs of the last 5 years who may well fall away over the next few years while ill-gotten PPs mature and start to star. I mean, it would have to happen just as we embark on our rebuild, doesn't it, just as the change in the F/S rule came in just in time to deny us any loophole advantage that previously existed and was exploited by the likes of Geelong etc. to pick up guns in the third round while we had to use our first rounders on Cordy and Wallis.)

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    • Sockeye Salmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6365

      #3
      Re: AFL scraps priority pick

      Originally posted by Scraggers

      Nick Riewoldt (2000), Luke Hodge (2001), Adam Cooney (2003), Brett Deledio (2004), Marc Murphy (2005) and Dale Thomas (2005) were all recruited with priority picks.
      This shits me. If there were no priority picks we still finished last and would still have had the number 1 pick and would have still picked Cooney. Farren Ray was our bonus pick.

      Just like Koszitske was St. Kilda's and Tambling was Richmonds. I don't even know how Hodge got a mention because that pick was traded for Trent Croad *shakes head*.

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      • Dancin' Douggy
        WOOF Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 2876

        #4
        Re: AFL scraps priority pick

        Now I'm more convinced than ever that we're gonna have a shocker of a year.
        Right after they change the rules.

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15407

          #5
          Re: AFL scraps priority pick

          So the AFL is not going to advise the new criteria?
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • boydogs
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 5845

            #6
            Re: AFL scraps priority pick

            Originally posted by azabob
            So the AFL is not going to advise the new criteria?
            From the article:

            Originally posted by AFL
            The new system, which is yet to be finalised, will take into account a number of factors.

            They are: a club's premiership points over a period of years; its percentage over a period of years; any finals appearances in recent seasons; any premierships in recent seasons; and club injury rates in each relevant season.
            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

            Formerly gogriff

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            • Sockeye Salmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6365

              #7
              Re: AFL scraps priority pick

              Originally posted by gogriff
              From the article:
              Great, another Mickey Mouse policy. These clowns are really doing all of this on the run.


              Just scrap all priority picks. If you are really crap your reward is the no. 1 pick. If you are really crap again you get the no. 1 pick again.

              If you are still really crap, get a decent recruiter.

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              • Remi Moses
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 14785

                #8
                Re: AFL scraps priority pick

                Wouldn't it be lovely if they went on premiership drought criteria?
                Hmm they scrap a policy then create more greyness!!

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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #9
                  Re: AFL scraps priority pick

                  Originally posted by Remi Moses
                  Wouldn't it be lovely if they went on premiership drought criteria?
                  Hmm they scrap a policy then create more greyness!!
                  Seems they are

                  Anderson said a formula would be developed that will take into account such factors as a club’s premiership points over a period of years (with greater weight to recent seasons), its percentage over a period of years as another indication of on-field competitiveness (with greater weight to recent seasons), any finals appearances in recent seasons, any premierships in recent seasons and club injury rates in each relevant season.
                  You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11887

                    #10
                    Re: AFL scraps priority pick

                    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                    Seems they are

                    Anderson said a formula would be developed that will take into account such factors as a club’s premiership points over a period of years (with greater weight to recent seasons), its percentage over a period of years as another indication of on-field competitiveness (with greater weight to recent seasons), any finals appearances in recent seasons, any premierships in recent seasons and club injury rates in each relevant season.
                    That means points from winning games in the regular season, ie 40 points from winning 10 games.
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      #11
                      Re: AFL scraps priority pick

                      Originally posted by hujsh
                      That means points from winning games in the regular season, ie 40 points from winning 10 games.
                      Howdy Hujsh

                      any finals appearances in recent seasons, any premierships in recent seasons

                      So we haven't had a finals appearance in a recent season and no premiership joy in recent seasons.
                      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #12
                        Re: AFL scraps priority pick

                        Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                        Seems they are

                        Anderson said a formula would be developed that will take into account such factors as a club’s premiership points over a period of years (with greater weight to recent seasons), its percentage over a period of years as another indication of on-field competitiveness (with greater weight to recent seasons), any finals appearances in recent seasons, any premierships in recent seasons and club injury rates in each relevant season.
                        I too am sick of the greyness - If the compensation pick system is anything to go by I'm not a fan.. How do you objectively measure a team's performance better than ladder position? It makes no sense to me and just opens up the league to even more criticism.

                        How do judge the impact of injuries between clubs... Much like Melbourne and Scully, will it be the team that bleats the most that gets the best compensation? Will the AFL be making a judgement call on who is tanking, even though they have suggested along that there is no evidence to suggest it has occured.

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                        • Sockeye Salmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6365

                          #13
                          Re: AFL scraps priority pick

                          Originally posted by elephant_man
                          I too am sick of the greyness - If the compensation pick system is anything to go by I'm not a fan.. How do you objectively measure a team's performance better than ladder position? It makes no sense to me and just opens up the league to even more criticism.

                          How do judge the impact of injuries between clubs... Much like Melbourne and Scully, will it be the team that bleats the most that gets the best compensation? Will the AFL be making a judgement call on who is tanking, even though they have suggested along that there is no evidence to suggest it has occured.
                          Of course not, the AFL will decide exactly the way they always have - and do precisely what the Herald-Sun tell them to.

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11887

                            #14
                            Re: AFL scraps priority pick

                            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                            any finals appearances in recent seasons, any premierships in recent seasons

                            I would think the recent premierships section would only be of interest if we were one of the 3-5 teams you could count as having a recent premiership. Our 'drought' would not be taken into account which is what Remi was wishing for.

                            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                            So we haven't had a finals appearance in a recent season and no premiership joy in recent seasons.
                            Our 3 prelims in a row would count as a finals appearance.

                            As the highlighted section was about premiership points i assumed you had a brain fade and confused it with premierships.
                            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                            • jazzadogs
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 5719

                              #15
                              Re: AFL scraps priority pick

                              Originally posted by elephant_man
                              I too am sick of the greyness - If the compensation pick system is anything to go by I'm not a fan.. How do you objectively measure a team's performance better than ladder position? It makes no sense to me and just opens up the league to even more criticism.

                              How do judge the impact of injuries between clubs... Much like Melbourne and Scully, will it be the team that bleats the most that gets the best compensation? Will the AFL be making a judgement call on who is tanking, even though they have suggested along that there is no evidence to suggest it has occured.
                              Will GWS get a priority pick this year, when they inevitably don't win many games?


                              They've removed a stupid rule, with no grey area, and replaced it with a seemingly better rule with a lot more grey areas. I'm not sure if it's really an improvement.

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