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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #46
    Re: The Sham Cup

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    Are you sure about that? Watters wants the 4 points.
    http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/...304-1uams.html
    Had it been a real game, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #47
      Re: The Sham Cup

      Originally posted by chef
      They need to trial things somewhere.
      It's an admission that the game has issues then. Don't believe Bartlett's spin how all other codes do it(change rules) too.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #48
        Re: The Sham Cup

        Its close 140 years that the game has been going and they are still trialing stuff

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        • chef
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 14582

          #49
          Re: The Sham Cup

          Originally posted by Chops
          Its close 140 years that the game has been going and they are still trialing stuff
          So you don't like any of the rule changes they have brought in over the last 140 years?
          The curse is dead.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44314

            #50
            Re: The Sham Cup

            Originally posted by AndrewP6
            Unfortunately the AFL signed off the Bombers travel arrangements beforehand which closes the door somewhat for them. I expect on Monday the Saints might ask them to review it again
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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #51
              Re: The Sham Cup

              Originally posted by chef
              So you don't like any of the rule changes they have brought in over the last 140 years?
              Yes there has been so many so there might be a couple.
              The short kick rule in the 1800s.
              They harp on all the time about how it's the best game, yet they continually try to change it.

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              • ledge
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2007
                • 14122

                #52
                Re: The Sham Cup

                Originally posted by Chops
                Yes there has been so many so there might be a couple.
                The short kick rule in the 1800s.
                They harp on all the time about how it's the best game, yet they continually try to change it.
                Good point Chops, problem with Aussie rules is too many rules and too many 50/50 rules.

                Soccer and cricket are pretty straight forward rules and nowhere near as many.
                Bring back the biff

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                • AndrewP6
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 8142

                  #53
                  Re: The Sham Cup

                  Just announced on Fox that St Kilda will get the four points due to the Bombres no-show in Wang. Apparently they think the NAB Cup is just as important as the Premiership season.
                  [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66128

                    #54
                    Re: The Sham Cup

                    Originally posted by chef
                    They need to trial things somewhere.
                    Why do we have to trial anything?

                    For gods sake people, why do we have to change this game, what is wrong with it?

                    Watching the game tonight with these ridiculous rules makes it the Sham Cup. Its so frustrating.
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      #55
                      Re: The Sham Cup

                      Sham cup??? loved it! I'll watch us beat Carlton any time of the year.
                      You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44314

                        #56
                        Re: The Sham Cup

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Why do we have to trial anything?

                        For gods sake people, why do we have to change this game, what is wrong with it?


                        Watching the game tonight with these ridiculous rules makes it the Sham Cup. Its so frustrating.
                        People said that about the advantage rule they also said the same thing about waiting for the goal umpires to put the flags away before you were allowed to kick in after a point. They also put a line across the centre square after watching two ruckman spend the better part of every game just wrestling and they also put a centre square to open up the middle of the ground rather than having 36 players at the fall of every contest.
                        They get some right and they get some wrong but you obviously think the game is purring along at a 100%. The NAB cup is where I would prefer the AFL rules committee to try new rules and even if they get a few wrong it's still the right spot to give them a go.
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                        • The Coon Dog
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7578

                          #57
                          Re: The Sham Cup

                          I guess we should fly to Ballarat a day early, just to be safe!
                          [COLOR="Red"][B][U][COLOR="Blue"]85, 92, 97, 98, 08, 09, 10... Break the curse![/COLOR][/U][/B][/COLOR]

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66128

                            #58
                            Re: The Sham Cup

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            People said that about the advantage rule they also said the same thing about waiting for the goal umpires to put the flags away before you were allowed to kick in after a point. They also put a line across the centre square after watching two ruckman spend the better part of every game just wrestling and they also put a centre square to open up the middle of the ground rather than having 36 players at the fall of every contest.

                            They get some right and they get some wrong but you obviously think the game is purring along at a 100%. The NAB cup is where I would prefer the AFL rules committee to try new rules and even if they get a few wrong it's still the right spot to give them a go.
                            The only one they got right was the centre square, the rest I am dead against.

                            No one can answer, whats wrong with the game and we have to continually change things?
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66128

                              #59
                              Re: The Sham Cup

                              The AFL rules book has 70 plus pages of rules, it is the most over officiated game in the world, no wonder we need so many umpires on the ground.
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44314

                                #60
                                Re: The Sham Cup

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                The only one they got right was the centre square, the rest I am dead against.

                                No one can answer, whats wrong with the game and we have to continually change things?
                                The game is OK now based on the fact that things like the advantage rule and the line separating the ruckman have worked. It's no longer a constant dour struggle.

                                I think they are also on a winner with the sub even though I was originally against it.
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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