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  • Dazza
    WOOF Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 548

    #16
    Re: The Sham Cup

    I'm not sure why. But the Nab cup has been horrible this year. More-so than any other year that I can remember.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 45000

      #17
      Re: The Sham Cup

      Originally posted by Hotdog60
      As I said I used to enjoy the night series way back when, I suppose I'm just getting sick and tired of the rule changes more than anything.
      And I agree with that and I share everyones frustration with it but it doesn't mean the competition isn't the best lead into the home and away season.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • chef
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 14694

        #18
        Re: The Sham Cup

        Keep it the same(as this year, round robin with a GF at the end) as no one cares about the results any way and it allows the AFL to trial different things. Glorified practice matches are all they are
        The curse is dead.

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        • jazzadogs
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Oct 2008
          • 5718

          #19
          Re: The Sham Cup

          Originally posted by chef
          Keep it the same(as this year, round robin with a GF at the end) as no one cares about the results any way and it allows the AFL to trial different things. Glorified practice matches are all they are
          I would keep it the same without the stupid format of Rd 1. No need to have the mini-games, just go straight into two teams playing a full 4 quarters against each other.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #20
            Re: The Sham Cup

            Originally posted by MrMahatma
            I'm sure the sponsorship cash will determine the life-span of this cup.
            That's what I believe. I'd be embarrassed to sponsor such a poorly run competition.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #21
              Re: The Sham Cup

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              For those that are criticizing it, did you go to the final (or watch it on TV) and celebrate when we won it?
              Watched on tv. Was happy we won but no different from a H&A win.

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              • AndrewP6
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2009
                • 8142

                #22
                Re: The Sham Cup

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                For those that are criticizing it, did you go to the final (or watch it on TV) and celebrate when we won it?
                Yes, it was the only silverware I've ever seen us win - I'd celebrate a win in a bowls tournament if the Bulldogs were the winners! But looking back, it got us nowhere in the season proper.

                I wouldn't mind it so much if they stopped tinkering with the rules, and just admitted it is what it is - practise matches.
                [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #23
                  Re: The Sham Cup

                  There is no full team competition used as a lead up in other codes of football, why does afl need to be different?
                  As for trying players out. The only real way is in a meaningful game. They 1st round of 3 teams wasn't meaningful. Some sides don't take this comp seriously. The country grounds might be dubious and again the trial rules change the way the game is played.

                  I have no problem with players resting throughout the season. There are dead rubbers now and even more with this comp.

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                  • Bulldog4life
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 9607

                    #24
                    Re: The Sham Cup

                    Originally posted by jazzadogs
                    I would keep it the same without the stupid format of Rd 1. No need to have the mini-games, just go straight into two teams playing a full 4 quarters against each other.
                    Agree

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 45000

                      #25
                      Re: The Sham Cup

                      Originally posted by Chops
                      Watched on tv. Was happy we won but no different from a H&A win.
                      But had your picture taken with the cup from memory?
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 45000

                        #26
                        Re: The Sham Cup

                        Originally posted by Chops
                        There is no full team competition used as a lead up in other codes of football, why does afl need to be different?
                        I'd rather Lake (for example) be given a run when there is no H&A points on offer than testing him in the regular season.

                        Originally posted by Chops
                        As for trying players out. The only real way is in a meaningful game. They 1st round of 3 teams wasn't meaningful. Some sides don't take this comp seriously. The country grounds might be dubious and again the trial rules change the way the game is played.
                        I disagree. Plenty can be gained by trialling something in the pre-season.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #27
                          Re: The Sham Cup

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          But had your picture taken with the cup from memory?
                          I got the opportunity. It's silverware we hardly see. Will take but would rather have beaten Collingwood round 1.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #28
                            Re: The Sham Cup

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I'd rather Lake (for example) be given a run when there is no H&A points on offer than testing him in the regular season.

                            I disagree. Plenty can be gained by trialling something in the pre-season.
                            I'm not saying get rid of practice matches. Currently the pre season comp runs for 6 weeks including the intra or rest week makes it 8 weeks which is almost a third of the normal season. Too long for me

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 45000

                              #29
                              Re: The Sham Cup

                              Originally posted by Chops
                              I'm not saying get rid of practice matches. Currently the pre season comp runs for 6 weeks including the intra or rest week makes it 8 weeks which is almost a third of the normal season. Too long for me
                              NAB's have a far better intensity than practice games against other clubs ever did. It's also great that it's on TV for the members that can't get there. Players have to abide by the rules or they can get rubbed out and when compared to games I used to see at the old Skinner reserve we are light years ahead of that. It's not perfect in fact it's far from it but it's also far from the sham you are indicating.
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                              • Greystache
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 9775

                                #30
                                Re: The Sham Cup

                                Originally posted by jazzadogs
                                I would keep it the same without the stupid format of Rd 1. No need to have the mini-games, just go straight into two teams playing a full 4 quarters against each other.
                                Agree with that. I get nothing out of watching the mini-games. The game never gets into a rhythm, halves are over before the game opens up, then they start it all again against another team. Give us 3-4 four quarter games that the clubs treat as a proper hit out and that the fans can get into watching.
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