Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21408

    #46
    Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

    Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
    Melbourne were only doing what the AFL were encouraging. If the AFL were so concerned that tanking might happen, why did they give such a massive benefit for doing it.

    I'm going by memory here, but other than one or two times when teams eligible for priority picks played each other, no team ever just missed out on a priority pick by one win. What an amazing coincidence.
    It's just another example of the AFL introducing a rule or concession, and it being completely counterproductive.

    Think the introduction of the 15m kick to reduce congestion in the forward line. All that did was make teams set themselves a few metres towards the opposition goal, hence increasing congestion.

    Think making the head sacrosanct. All that did was make players dive in head first to a contest to draw a free kick for head high contact, irrespective of the intent of the offender and incidental contact.

    Think using 18 teams to justify greater revenue from a broadcasting deal, to equalise the competition from a revenue distribution perspective. All that did was make the fixture even more unfair, resulting in teams craving and needing more exposure filling undesirable broadcasting slots.

    The list goes on.

    The AFL is poorly governed, and is pulling itself further and further away from credibility as a premium provider of entertainment and services. It is completely unaccountable to scrutiny that is not sanctioned, or controlled and self-serving.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • The Underdog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Aug 2007
      • 6743

      #47
      Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

      Originally posted by China Dog
      Here's the first real test for our new President. Is he going to kick up a sh*t-storm over this and force the AFL to deal with the Dees before the National draft or are we going to sit back and just take it again?

      The Dees should have to forfeit their first round picks in the draft and Viney and Hogan (in 2013) should both have to go back into the draft pool. We should move up to pick 4 and 5.

      I'd love to think we will be all over this, but probably we'll be and complient do nothing.
      Maybe we'll keep quiet because we don't want the AFL to look to closely at 2003 & 2004
      Park that car
      Drop that phone
      Sleep on the floor
      Dream about me

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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 21408

        #48
        Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

        Originally posted by The Underdog
        Maybe we'll keep quiet because we don't want the AFL to look to closely at 2003 & 2004
        Indeed.

        I guess the saving grace is we were so poorly coached any reasonable adjudicator after an investigation would award us retrospective first round picks!

        I'm more concerned with 2012 to be honest.
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #49
          Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

          Unless they lost every pick in the draft, there is no way Melbourne will lose Viney, he's a father son. If all they have is pick 116, voila! Viney goes at 116.

          Forcing Hogan into next years draft is a bit rough on the kid too, after the buildup. I'd like to see the AFL allow a few days for GWS to retrade the pick. Can't see it happening.

          Looking forward to picks 4/5

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          • divvydan
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 1502

            #50
            Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

            I would expect any penalties to apply from 2013 onwards.

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14795

              #51
              Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
              Imagine being a player, doing well in a position, then being dragged or moved BECAUSE you are winning your position. How demoralizing.
              And what sort of message does that send to the group?

              If I was a senior player I'd have zero loyalty to a club that treated me that way - they have a lost a plethora of good players over the past few years.
              I can't say I like Carlton very much but I have enjoyed seeing Brock McLean play well in 2012.
              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14795

                #52
                Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

                Originally posted by BornAScragger
                Unless they lost every pick in the draft, there is no way Melbourne will lose Viney, he's a father son. If all they have is pick 116, voila! Viney goes at 116.
                The Age is reporting that if Melbourne lost their 1st and 2nd round picks, they would also lose Viney.
                Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15117

                  #53
                  Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

                  Originally posted by Mofra
                  The Age is reporting that if Melbourne lost their 1st and 2nd round picks, they would also lose Viney.
                  Then does Viney go to the draft or to the club who nominated him in father son bidding?
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • chef
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 14462

                    #54
                    Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    The Age is reporting that if Melbourne lost their 1st and 2nd round picks, they would also lose Viney.
                    This would really open up the draft(especially for us) at the top if this was to happen.
                    The curse is dead.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Administrator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27645

                      #55
                      Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

                      Originally posted by azabob
                      Then does Viney go to the draft or to the club who nominated him in father son bidding?


                      I dont think any club did nominate him.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14462

                        #56
                        Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

                        Originally posted by Twodogs
                        I dont think any club did nominate him.
                        Pretty sure Port did. If no one nominated him they could have just used their last available pick.
                        The curse is dead.

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                        • Sedat
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 11046

                          #57
                          Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

                          Originally posted by Twodogs
                          I dont think any club did nominate him.
                          Port nominated him at pick 7 - if no club nominated him, Melbourne would have been free to take him with their last pick in the ND.
                          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                          • Twodogs
                            Administrator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27645

                            #58
                            Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

                            Originally posted by chef
                            Pretty sure Port did. If no one nominated him they could have just used their last available pick.
                            Originally posted by Sedat
                            Port nominated him at pick 7 - if no club nominated him, Melbourne would have been free to take him with their last pick in the ND.

                            Cheers guys. So he goes to Port if Melbourne's picks go by the wayside then?
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • chef
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14462

                              #59
                              Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

                              Originally posted by Twodogs
                              Cheers guys. So he goes to Port if Melbourne's picks go by the wayside then?
                              Not sure as this would be unprecedented.
                              The curse is dead.

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                              • KT31
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 5454

                                #60
                                Re: Melbourne FC. Tanks for the memories.

                                Originally posted by Twodogs
                                Cheers guys. So he goes to Port if Melbourne's picks go by the wayside then?
                                Imagine he would just go into the draft, once Port made their intentions to bid for him no other club needed to bid to force Melbourne to use their first pick.
                                It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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