Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

[Webby]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

It won't happen. It can't happen.

Melbourne's rap sheet:
2009 - "not found guilty" of tanking
Fined $500k despite "not tanking" but fine was actually never enforced!!!
In addition, money provided to bail them out and pay for Roos's salary demands
AFL stepped in and gave them board appointments
AFL stepped in and appointed a CEO
AFL stepped in and appointed them a new coach
AFL granted them the money to pay the coach
AFL provide two priority picks for loss of Scully, yet give WBFC just one for Ward (the better player)
To add fuel to that, Scully and Trengove were picked up via priority pick. Then when Scully left, they picked up two priority picks - so that effectively was a priority pick on a priority pick on a priority pick!
In 2007, they received a priority pick
In 2008, they received pick 1
In 2009, they received both pick 1 & pick 2 as a priority
In 2011, they traded their top pick for Mitch Clark
In 2012, they were granted a priority pick 2 in the mini-draft - Jesse Hogan
Then in the main draft, they took the coveted Jimmy Toumpas at 4 & also received Jack Viney for pick 26 after the AFL owned and administered GWS suspiciously failed to nominate him..
In 2013, they traded their picks 2 and 20 for Dom Tyson and pick 9 (and a swap of later picks)

Melbourne's problem is not its lack of early drafting and priority picks!! It is its poor culture, its inability to develop talent and its complete lack of backbone. In acknowledging this, what does club administration do?

A) Continue to focus on addressing this issue; or
B) Publicly lobby for yet another handout - thus further eroding the fabric and reputation of the club

They are just f#%king hopeless! Would the competition actually be poorer if they ceased to exist?

[Bornadog]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

It won't happen. It can't happen.

Melbourne's rap sheet:
2009 - not found guilty of tanking
Fined $500k despite not tanking but fine never enforced
In addition, money provided to bail them out and pay for Roos's salary demands
AFL stepped in and gave them board appointments
AFL stepped in and appointed a CEO
AFL stepped in and appointed them a new coach
AFL granted them the money to pay the coach
AFL provide two priority picks for loss of Scully, yet give WBFC just one for Ward (the better player)
To add fuel to that, Scully and Trengove were picked up via priority pick. The when Scully left, they picked up two priority picks - so that effectively was a priority pick on a priority pick on a priority pick!
In 2007, they received a priority pick
In 2008, they received pick 1
In 2009, they received both pick 1 & pick 2 as a priority
In 2011, they traded their top pick for Mitch Clarke
In 2012, they were granted a priority pick 2 in the mini-draft - Jesse Hogan
Then in the main draft, they took the coveted Jimmy Toumpas at 4 & also received Jack Viney for pick 26 after the AFL owned and administered GWS suspiciously failed to nominate him..
In 2013, they traded their picks 2 and 20 for Dom Tyson and pick 9 (and a swap of later picks)

Melbourne's problem is not its lack of early drafting and priority picks!! It is its poor culture, its inability to develop talent and its complete lack of backbone. In acknowledging this, what does club administration do?

A) Continue to focus on addressing this issue; or
B) Publicly lobby for yet another handout - thus further eroding the fabric and reputation of the club

They are just f#%king hopeless! Would the competition actually be poorer if they ceased to exist?

fantastic post a must email to the AFL

[jeemak]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

The draft tampering by the AFL has to stop.

The Demons have selected some good kids and developed them poorly, they have traded away picks for players with varying success, and they have picked some poor players.

Sure, they lost Scully but were more than adequately compensated especially if you consider his underwhelming output.

The only way they will improve as a club is if they actually take some responsibility for themselves and improve their terrible culture. They have enough to develop on their list.

A good article here:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-19/forget-the-handouts-demons

How can a side that has beaten Essendon, Carlton, Adelaide and Richmond this year deserve a priority pick?

[Murphy'sLore]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

Have they ever heard of patience? They got their messiah, but it's going to take even the miracle-worker longer than a year to turn the place around. There is no silver bullet, it's going to take hard work and yes, time.

[Webby]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

The draft tampering by the AFL has to stop.

The Demons have selected some good kids and developed them poorly, they have traded away picks for players with varying success, and they have picked some poor players.

Sure, they lost Scully but were more than adequately compensated especially if you consider his underwhelming output.

The only way they will improve as a club is if they actually take some responsibility for themselves and improve their terrible culture. They have enough to develop on their list.

A good article here:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-08-19/forget-the-handouts-demons

How can a side that has beaten Essendon, Carlton, Adelaide and Richmond this year deserve a priority pick?

I hadn't seen that article. Says it perfectly. Good to see the journos are onto it.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

I hadn't seen that article. Says it perfectly. Good to see the journos are onto it.

Barrett actually wrote a very similar article last year when Melbourne asked for a priority pick. Melbourne were denied it and should be again this year.

[Murphy'sLore]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

It's interesting to me that everyone bangs on about the importance of having a 'good culture' and understand how that builds on itself, but seem reluctant to recognise that a bad culture can be just as powerful, if not more so. It's not so easy to just 'get over it' and move on. It's like the whole club is depressed, essentially. Throwing a shiny present at them isn't going to make any difference at all until change comes from within.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

It won't happen. It can't happen.

Melbourne's rap sheet:
2009 - "not found guilty" of tanking
Fined $500k despite "not tanking" but fine was actually never enforced!!!
In addition, money provided to bail them out and pay for Roos's salary demands
AFL stepped in and gave them board appointments
AFL stepped in and appointed a CEO
AFL stepped in and appointed them a new coach
AFL granted them the money to pay the coach
AFL provide two priority picks for loss of Scully, yet give WBFC just one for Ward (the better player)
To add fuel to that, Scully and Trengove were picked up via priority pick. Then when Scully left, they picked up two priority picks - so that effectively was a priority pick on a priority pick on a priority pick!
In 2007, they received a priority pick
In 2008, they received pick 1
In 2009, they received both pick 1 & pick 2 as a priority
In 2011, they traded their top pick for Mitch Clark
In 2012, they were granted a priority pick 2 in the mini-draft - Jesse Hogan
Then in the main draft, they took the coveted Jimmy Toumpas at 4 & also received Jack Viney for pick 26 after the AFL owned and administered GWS suspiciously failed to nominate him..
In 2013, they traded their picks 2 and 20 for Dom Tyson and pick 9 (and a swap of later picks)

Melbourne's problem is not its lack of early drafting and priority picks!! It is its poor culture, its inability to develop talent and its complete lack of backbone. In acknowledging this, what does club administration do?

A) Continue to focus on addressing this issue; or
B) Publicly lobby for yet another handout - thus further eroding the fabric and reputation of the club

They are just f#%king hopeless! Would the competition actually be poorer if they ceased to exist?

Very well put Webby. Leave out the last line but send this to everyone you can think of. The run home on SEN for one.
The Herald sun, The Age. etc etc.

[Sedat]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

It is incredulous and shameless for Melbourne to ask for further assistance. But then again they have been given handout after handout (thanks for summarising, Webby) and are accustomed to the handout culture - that is why they will never proactively get their act together of their own volition.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

pa. thet. ic. Melbourne.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

They should be ashamed to even suggest they would like a priority pick. They have an abundance of early picks on their list. They are a hopeless case.

[Mantis]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

The AFL has funded their current senior coach, but he doesn't even want to take responsibility for this years poor performance, only good ones.

Still seems a very toxic and blame environment.

What person in their right mind would go their and destroy their career? Especially when the man in charge contines to blame everyone else.

It's all about 'Brand Roos'.. The most selfish person in the game.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

They should be ashamed to even suggest they would like a priority pick. They have an abundance of early picks on their list. They are a hopeless case.

Even the players have come out and say they stand for nothing. Roos has taken a poor approach blaming their past - the focus should have been on looking forward to a better culture, not continuing to lament previous mistakes and giving the players an out (as well as himself) for dishing up woeful performances.

[azabob]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

So now Roos has said today he will trade away their early draft picks again....

[Hotdog60]

Re: Demons ask for priority pick - any other woofers outraged?

So now Roos has said today he will trade away their early draft picks again....

That's fine with me, I'll trade Howard for their 1st pick and Austin for their 2nd.