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  • F'scary
    WOOF Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 4089

    #46
    Re: Well Ruck Me.

    Minson is still clearly our best ruckman but I reckon it is the Minson structural issue that is bothering Bevo. Thing is, I don't think Cordy can offer anything different and on top of that lacks in the areas Minson is strong in. It will be Campbell's opportunity within a week or two. He alone out of the three can take a turn at FP, FF or CHF. My prediction: at year end, Bevo will be looking for a mobile 2nd ruck who can take a mark in the forward line to partner Campbell. He will also be looking for another young ruckman to develop over the next 4 years or thereabouts. Minno will slide more and more in terms of senior games played next season and Cordy will be delisted (remaining contract paid out if necessary) at the end of 2015.
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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66726

      #47
      Re: Well Ruck Me.

      Originally posted by F'scary
      Minson is still clearly our best ruckman but I reckon it is the Minson structural issue that is bothering Bevo. Thing is, I don't think Cordy can offer anything different and on top of that lacks in the areas Minson is strong in. It will be Campbell's opportunity within a week or two. He alone out of the three can take a turn at FP, FF or CHF. My prediction: at year end, Bevo will be looking for a mobile 2nd ruck who can take a mark in the forward line to partner Campbell. He will also be looking for another young ruckman to develop over the next 4 years or thereabouts. Minno will slide more and more in terms of senior games played next season and Cordy will be delisted (remaining contract paid out if necessary) at the end of 2015.
      I think you are about right with that prediction
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      • boydogs
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 5844

        #48
        Re: Well Ruck Me.

        Would Jesse White be of interest? Looks the part but it hasn't really clicked for him
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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15312

          #49
          Re: Well Ruck Me.

          Originally posted by boydogs
          Would Jesse White be of interest? Looks the part but it hasn't really clicked for him
          No thanks. Other than his purple patch at Sydney he has not done much at all.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            #50
            Re: Well Ruck Me.

            Pretty sure Roughy is also our number one ruckman.
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            • Greystache
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              #51
              Re: Well Ruck Me.

              Cordy looks like a tall 14 year old we asked to play seniors because we have injuries. Surely the call makes itself.
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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21831

                #52
                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                I think he's at a point where he knows what he needs to do and the major thing stopping him from being able to compete is a lack of strength.

                I'd be inclined to suggest he stops playing for 8-10 weeks to work on his strength and tank, and come out for the last six or seven rounds of the season. If we think he has the talent to be a ruck then we put as much work into his physique as we possibly can and give him a single year extension.

                If we don't think he'll eventually get there then we need to cut him loose.
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                • Mantis
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 15448

                  #53
                  Re: Well Ruck Me.

                  Originally posted by jeemak
                  I think he's at a point where he knows what he needs to do and the major thing stopping him from being able to compete is a lack of strength.

                  I'd be inclined to suggest he stops playing for 8-10 weeks to work on his strength and tank, and come out for the last six or seven rounds of the season. If we think he has the talent to be a ruck then we put as much work into his physique as we possibly can and give him a single year extension.
                  March- September is for playing.. He is 25 now and still has the body strength of a 19 year old.. 8-10 weeks in the gym isn't going to fix what 6 or 7 pre-seasons hasn't.

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21831

                    #54
                    Re: Well Ruck Me.

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    March- September is for playing.. He is 25 now and still has the body strength of a 19 year old.. 8-10 weeks in the gym isn't going to fix what 6 or 7 pre-seasons hasn't.
                    His body hasn't been able to take the required work during a huge amount of those preseasons.

                    I think his body is probably at a stage where it's more developed structurally and could possibly take on the work. Give him a couple of months at it and then he can give it a hit over the following preseason.
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                    • Ghost Dog
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 9404

                      #55
                      Re: Well Ruck Me.

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      The other missing point is: forwardline pressure. If we are to play a dedicated second ruck/forward they must be able to apply sufficient pressure. It looks set to become a hallmark of our gameplan.
                      I guess this is where Will has an issue with his game.
                      I'd like to see Campbell up foward again because he is still quite young and lots of room for improvement, and have no problem Boyd being used now and again when the match up is effective for him to be in the ruck. He is a quick thinker - have been impressed.
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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #56
                        Re: Well Ruck Me.

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Pretty sure Roughy is also our number one ruckman.
                        Yep. Couldn't agree with myself more on that one.
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                        • G-Mo77
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9876

                          #57
                          Re: Well Ruck Me.

                          I've forgotten how good his tap work was before he went back. The rucks looked good yesterday, they dominated Mummy.

                          Roberts stepping up and delivering has certainly helped give Roughy a chance to change roles. We've got a pretty versatile player there now.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #58
                            Re: Well Ruck Me.

                            Bevo's message about providing a physical presence around the ground is reflected in the stats , both Big Will and Roughy had 4 1% each , it might not look like much of a stat buts it a benchmark for Defenders not Ruckmen

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66726

                              #59
                              Re: Well Ruck Me.

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Pretty sure Roughy is also our number one ruckman.
                              Minson gone backwards again. Shocking game tonight.
                              I would like to see Campbell come in next week
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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21831

                                #60
                                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Minson gone backwards again. Shocking game tonight.
                                I would like to see Campbell come in next week
                                Can you imagine the vitriol if Cordy returned the results Minson or Roughead did today.

                                I left the question mark out of that sentence on purpose.
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