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  • Bulldog4life
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 9607

    Re: Well Ruck Me.

    Next year I would like to see Boyd and Redpath together in the same side. Whether they share ruck duties is another question. Maybe

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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13235

      Re: Well Ruck Me.

      Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
      I am not convinced that he will offer the value as a KPF that he could provide as a ruckman.

      If we had Goldstein would we play him forward or Ruck. A mobile tall who can handle the ruck (such as Stefan Martin) also adds to the midfield. I see Boyd as being better able to cover the ground and contribute in those marking contests.

      I actually like the way Redpath is tracking (another unpopular view), as he provides a strong presence and he can actually kick it.
      As his confidence develops I expect him to get better.
      In all fairness to Boyd its a pretty narrow sample size that we have to work with. He is 19 and played 9 games with GWS and not many more for us. I fail to see how you or anyone for that matter could assume at this stage of his career that he has the potential to be a better ruck than forward. He has shown at a junior level against the best defenders that he was, not only the best forward in the land, but the best player in the land.

      Tom Boyd will be a gun forward and we need to draft / trade astutely to a) get the type of ruckman we need into the club and b) do this as soon as possible so the Tom Boyd to the ruck paradigm is extinguished as rapidly as it flared up.

      We need to go hard, hard, hard at Stefan Martin.

      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • Rocco Jones
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jun 2008
        • 6932

        Re: Well Ruck Me.

        Originally posted by Bulldog4life
        Next year I would like to see Boyd and Redpath together in the same side. Whether they share ruck duties is another question. Maybe
        I think the best chance of that happening is if Roughy is our 1st ruck. It would then give us the flexibility of playing an extra defender or forward and putting the other one in the ruck.

        Redpath and Tom Boyd will both have to improve a fair bit for them to play in the same side as a preference. I think Stringer and Crameri offer us the flexibility to go taller/smaller depending on quality and at the moment, our smalls are better than our talls.

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        • Hotdog60
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2009
          • 5905

          Re: Well Ruck Me.

          Originally posted by Bulldog4life
          Next year I would like to see Boyd and Redpath together in the same side. Whether they share ruck duties is another question. Maybe
          I think if Redpath can improve his fitness a bit more he might be ok as CHF and give an option further up field.
          Don't piss off old people
          The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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          • Bulldog4life
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 9607

            Re: Well Ruck Me.

            Originally posted by Rocco Jones
            I think the best chance of that happening is if Roughy is our 1st ruck. It would then give us the flexibility of playing an extra defender or forward and putting the other one in the ruck.

            Redpath and Tom Boyd will both have to improve a fair bit for them to play in the same side as a preference. I think Stringer and Crameri offer us the flexibility to go taller/smaller depending on quality and at the moment, our smalls are better than our talls.
            Good points. Maybe the Club might try both in the pre season together. Nothing to lose that way.

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            • Rocco Jones
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jun 2008
              • 6932

              Re: Well Ruck Me.

              Originally posted by Bulldog4life
              Good points. Maybe the Club might try both in the pre season together. Nothing to lose that way.
              Yeah we did in the last pre-season and Round 1. A lot also has to do with the quality running depth offer. Next year we get Libba and Stevens back. I also see McLean and Daniel becoming regulars in their second year. We already have to fit in an army of HB runners as well. Added quality in running depth will put a higher value on that 22nd spot.

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              • Bulldog4life
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 9607

                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                Yeah we did in the last pre-season and Round 1. A lot also has to do with the quality running depth offer. Next year we get Libba and Stevens back. I also see McLean and Daniel becoming regulars in their second year. We already have to fit in an army of HB runners as well. Added quality in running depth will put a higher value on that 22nd spot.
                Also be interesting to see what happens with the reduced interchangers and with the sub disappearing.

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14950

                  Re: Well Ruck Me.

                  Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                  Also be interesting to see what happens with the reduced interchangers and with the sub disappearing.
                  Players will have to spend more time on the ground - will a pure first ruck still be effective or do we go for someone less effective at stoppages, better around the ground and reduce their no 1 ruck role to 70%?
                  Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    Re: Well Ruck Me.

                    Would or should we try to squeeze another year or two out of David Hale if he came to us a delisted free agent?
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15307

                      Re: Well Ruck Me.

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      Would or should we try to squeeze another year or two out of David Hale if he came to us a delisted free agent?
                      Isnt he choosing to retire?
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        Re: Well Ruck Me.

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        Isnt he choosing to retire?
                        Ben Hudson chose to retire twice. Offering a contract can change minds.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Remi Moses
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 14785

                          Re: Well Ruck Me.

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Would or should we try to squeeze another year or two out of David Hale if he came to us a delisted free agent?
                          No he's cooked

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            Re: Well Ruck Me.

                            Update:

                            Ayce gone.
                            Campbell & Minson still here, but did very little this season.
                            Roughy allegedly training as a ruckman.

                            No trades in, and no free agent rucks.


                            Surely we need a primary list ruck and a rookie list ruck at the drafts. Any suggestions as to a kid or state leaguer etc?
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Missing Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8501

                              Re: Well Ruck Me.

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Update:

                              Ayce gone.
                              Campbell & Minson still here, but did very little this season.
                              Roughy allegedly training as a ruckman.

                              No trades in, and no free agent rucks.


                              Surely we need a primary list ruck and a rookie list ruck at the drafts. Any suggestions as to a kid or state leaguer etc?
                              Ayce back on the rookie list?

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                              • soupman
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 5113

                                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                                Originally posted by Templeton31
                                Ayce back on the rookie list?
                                Please no.

                                We know he isn't up to it. Lets take a chance on someone who might be.
                                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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