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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #1306
    Re: Well Ruck Me.

    Bevo happy much?

    Tim/Rory vs Nank/Ryan

    3.1 Goals vs 1.0
    34 Disposals vs 22
    11 Marks vs 2
    10 Tackles vs 8
    6 I50 vs 1
    12 Score Inv. vs 8
    85 & 94 TOG vs 75 & 73
    35 Hit Outs to 45
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • AshMac
      WOOF Member
      • Aug 2018
      • 1712

      #1307
      Re: Well Ruck Me.

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Bevo happy much?

      Tim/Rory vs Nank/Ryan

      3.1 Goals vs 1.0
      34 Disposals vs 22
      11 Marks vs 2
      10 Tackles vs 8
      6 I50 vs 1
      12 Score Inv. vs 8
      85 & 94 TOG vs 75 & 73
      35 Hit Outs to 45
      I thought Lobb played well in the ruck yesterday - for the first time it felt we weren?t exposed when English wasn?t there.

      For me, Tim has finally got that early 2021 form back since that bad concussion and is starting to string together good games consistently over 4 qtrs.

      On this trajectory he?ll be the best ruckman in the league next year
      The dam wall has busted!

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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10243

        #1308
        Re: Well Ruck Me.

        I’ve been a big critic of Tim but he’s clearly gone to the next level. His tap work remains quality over quantity but his HTA rate is staggering so far, against some very quality opposition. He’s the front runner for the AA ruck spot and our B&F and he deserves a ton of praise for that.

        Lobb hasn’t had the impact I was expecting but he hasn’t needed to.
        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 67687

          #1309
          Re: Well Ruck Me.

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          bevo happy much?

          Tim/rory vs nank/ryan

          3.1 goals vs 1.0
          34 disposals vs 22
          11 marks vs 2
          10 tackles vs 8
          6 i50 vs 1
          12 score inv. Vs 8
          85 & 94 tog vs 75 & 73
          35 hit outs to 45
          11 hta 10
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Jasper
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2009
            • 1329

            #1310
            Re: Well Ruck Me.

            Originally posted by jeemak
            Stats are only useful to the person using them to make a point. To everyone else they're irrelevant and we should just accept that.
            Stats are too often used to defend a point of view. Its often not needed.
            Doing my best to use emojis more frequently :o

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 67687

              #1311
              Re: Well Ruck Me.

              Originally posted by Jasper
              Stats are too often used to defend a point of view. Its often not needed.
              With rucking, stats can be useful to prove a point.

              If you say, someone had 40 hitouts, can sound misleading because it can assume the ruckman was dominant, but if only 5 are to advantage then it is not so good. So depends how you use and explain the stats.
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • josie
                Coaching Staff
                • Oct 2012
                • 4657

                #1312
                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                I was doubtful English would make it as a top notch ruckman. I?m very happy to eat my words. Bravo Timmy. After all the development and support we?ve shown I hope he re-signs with us.
                Josie :)

                Our day will come
                And we'll have everything.
                We'll share the joy
                Just like '54 again.

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                • Danjul
                  WOOF Member
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 1644

                  #1313
                  Re: Well Ruck Me.

                  Originally posted by josie
                  I was doubtful English would make it as a top notch ruckman. I?m very happy to eat my words. Bravo Timmy. After all the development and support we?ve shown I hope he re-signs with us.
                  The problem with English in the number one ruck spot was he was put in the role years too early and given no real support.

                  His around the ground work has always been excellent but now his development has reached the stage where his ruck work is formidable even against the big bodies.

                  Most people expected him to get to this level, right back to the day he joined us. Great to see him get there, although parts of the evolution were frustrating.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 67687

                    #1314
                    Re: Well Ruck Me.

                    Originally posted by Danjul
                    The problem with English in the number one ruck spot was he was put in the role years too early and given no real support.

                    His around the ground work has always been excellent but now his development has reached the stage where his ruck work is formidable even against the big bodies.

                    Most people expected him to get to this level, right back to the day he joined us. Great to see him get there, although parts of the evolution were frustrating.
                    Most people also forgot he was a young buck and is now starting to mature.
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • 1eyedog
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 13387

                      #1315
                      Re: Well Ruck Me.

                      Originally posted by Danjul
                      The problem with English in the number one ruck spot was he was put in the role years too early and given no real support.

                      His around the ground work has always been excellent but now his development has reached the stage where his ruck work is formidable even against the big bodies.

                      Most people expected him to get to this level, right back to the day he joined us. Great to see him get there, although parts of the evolution were frustrating.
                      Would he be here now if we didn't? We'll never know.
                      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                      • westdog54
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6686

                        #1316
                        Re: Well Ruck Me.

                        So last night the two main ruckmen were the 2nd (English) and 5th (Darcy) highest ranked players on the ground.

                        What did we make of the contest? Clearly Darcy got his hands to more ball ups/throw-ins but English did not damage around the ground.

                        Are hit outs over-weighted in fantasy footy scoring?

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                        • jazzadogs
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5837

                          #1317
                          Re: Well Ruck Me.

                          Originally posted by westdog54
                          So last night the two main ruckmen were the 2nd (English) and 5th (Darcy) highest ranked players on the ground.

                          What did we make of the contest? Clearly Darcy got his hands to more ball ups/throw-ins but English did not damage around the ground.

                          Are hit outs over-weighted in fantasy footy scoring?
                          Only if you use them to judge the quality of a player.

                          I thought both were really good, and agree with your summary. Given our clearance dominance you would have to say that Darcy's hitouts didn't hurt us.

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                          • westdog54
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6686

                            #1318
                            Re: Well Ruck Me.

                            Originally posted by jazzadogs
                            Only if you use them to judge the quality of a player.

                            I thought both were really good, and agree with your summary. Given our clearance dominance you would have to say that Darcy's hitouts didn't hurt us.
                            It is genuinely weird when two players opposed to each other are both considered among the best afield.

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 22149

                              #1319
                              Re: Well Ruck Me.

                              Originally posted by westdog54
                              It is genuinely weird when two players opposed to each other are both considered among the best afield.
                              Final round of 1996..........
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • westdog54
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6686

                                #1320
                                Re: Well Ruck Me.

                                Originally posted by jeemak
                                Final round of 1996..........
                                I've tried to erase 96 from my memory (I was 13). Refresh my memory?

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