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  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6924

    Re: List Management 2015

    'Whispers' hey? Just make up whatever you want and say you heard 'whispers'.

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    • Remi Moses
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 14785

      Re: List Management 2015

      Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
      FWIW just read that Terry Wallace on SEN this morning apparently said Dogs will make big play for Kruezer.
      There's a four year on the table from a club apparently .
      Might be us

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34316

        Re: List Management 2015

        Carlton would be crazy not to let him go for pick 3. They can go for Martin or even Minson to stop gap a couple of years.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          Re: List Management 2015

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Carlton would be crazy not to let him go for pick 3. They can go for Martin or even Minson to stop gap a couple of years.
          This is their big chance to have a significant draft position .
          My bet is the uproar of him leaving they'll crap their pants and re-sign him.
          Funny thing is though by the time Carlton are decent Kruezer will be well retired .

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          • The Doctor
            Coaching Staff
            • Jan 2007
            • 3702

            Re: List Management 2015

            Stevo saying we're into Kreuzer
            Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              Re: List Management 2015

              Kruezer didn't confirm he'd stay at Carlton when asked today. The apparent offer 'out there' is according to Hutchy 4 years at $500,000 a year. That would net Carlton pick 3 in compo.

              If. This is us. We could give Minson a free walk to Carlton for nada to free up salary space to cover Kruezers wage. They get Pick 3 with pick 2 and 20, access to Silvagni and PSD pick 1 (Carlisle) and Minson as a stop gap for no cost other than wage. Plus Hendo and Yarran compo. That's a win for them, and could be a win for us if he stays fit.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44369

                Re: List Management 2015

                Kruezer would be an interesting and a risky acquisition. He of course is a huge talent but the ability of any team getting him playing regularly is of course the big question.

                I think we would have to be an attractive club for him unless the Hawks or Tigers are more to his liking.
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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  Re: List Management 2015

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  Kruezer would be an interesting and a risky acquisition. He of course is a huge talent but the ability of any team getting him playing regularly is of course the big question.

                  I think we would have to be an attractive club for him unless the Hawks or Tigers are more to his liking.
                  Surely first ruck is where he sees himself. I don't get Richmond being mentioned by some media, or more to the point, Richmond giving pick 28 to Mr Megan Gale. His number must be finished if they're after Kruezer at big bucks.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: List Management 2015

                    The speculation I have heard is that 2 clubs have put similar offers to Kruezer's management. Both are 3-4 years and both are $500k-high $500's per year.

                    The 2 clubs are believed to be us and GWS.

                    If this is true, we would be likely to be the more attractive as we are Melboune based and don't have a Mumford on our list as competition for the 1st ruck.

                    As a restricted free agent, if Kruezer accepts one of these deals, and Carlton choose not to match it, the successful 'bidder' gets him without needing to offer anything in trade (Carlton get compensatory draft pick).

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      Re: List Management 2015

                      Imagine moving Cordy for Martin (as per the Qld club offering a big offer) and in effect Minson for Kruezer (for salary reasons above). That's a massive list improvement just there.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66215

                        Re: List Management 2015

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Imagine moving Cordy for Martin (as per the Qld club offering a big offer) and in effect Minson for Kruezer (for salary reasons above). That's a massive list improvement just there.
                        I thought I read Martin is going to stay at Brisbane?
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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          Re: List Management 2015

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          I thought I read Martin is going to stay at Brisbane?
                          Who knows. That club is on its knees about now, again, and like last year with us I've lent more than ever.... Saying you'll stay means very little in the AFL these days.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            Re: List Management 2015

                            My understanding is that Martin is pretty much certain to stay at Lions but Leuenberger will be leaving, no idea if we are a player but wouldn't surprise me.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              Re: List Management 2015

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Carlton would be crazy not to let him go for pick 3. They can go for Martin or even Minson to stop gap a couple of years.
                              Aside from his playing abilities, a reason Carlton are loathe to let him go is because he is apparently a champion clubman, those around the club and the supporters just love him.

                              Although very quiet, he is seen, in a fractured club, as a real binding force and leader.

                              The more I hear about him (compared to Henderson and Carlisle) the more he appeals as a potential Dog.

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                              • kruder
                                Coaching Staff
                                • May 2011
                                • 3790

                                Re: List Management 2015

                                Free agency was always going to work for us when we started to climb the ladder. Loving the clubs position atm, going for best available at the draft table and use free agency to address needs particularly talls.

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